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The “give me Harden over FVV” takes are embarrassing

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by JW86, Oct 24, 2024.

  1. roxon

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    The basket cuts, helping sengun with the PnR, dimes Reed and smith jr…nastyy
     
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    alley oops to Amen, Tari, Jalen, etc
     
  3. Roomba

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    I just wish Fred was a better passer, not in terms of making the right play but in terms of creativity and risk-taking.

    Like, if we had Brevin Knight/Andre Miller (age 30) instead of Fred, what would our team look like?
     
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    right now he has 4 assists to turnovers which is pretty good and that's because of his unisky passes

    problem his he and jalen need to shoot less threes pass it to jabari or even dillon more
     
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    I totally understand, and he’s probably one of the best in the league at taking care of the ball. I just feel like sometimes we don’t need to take care of it as much, especially on the break where I feel like we miss more chances than any other team between’s FVV’s unwillingness to throw lobs and Tari’s inability to see anything but the rim.

    Jalen and Fred definitely need to shoot fewer threes.
     
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  6. bustamove

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    yeah let Sengun and Amen go to town with being creative and risky
     
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    He does more than he teaches, I do think there is an argument for him doing well here.

    It is still a risk because when things don't go his well, he tends to go public and call out Front Office.

     
  8. Bo6

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    Harden is currently and has always been a superior player to Fred.
     
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    Don't care if I'm the last man standing on this island but still don't want Harden on this team.
     
  10. mac_got_this

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    You lot. I’ve watched Harden this year and he’s not good. He’s shooting just as inconsistently as our backcourt. Without the defensive effort. We attacked Harden when we played the clips. He’s a HOf but he’s not playing like one anymore. There’s a reason the sixers owners didn’t want to sign him long term
     
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  11. meh

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    Harden's TS% this year at .569 is higher than every rotation player on the Rockets other than Amen. It's even higher than all our centers. He also averages 8.3 assists on a Clippers team devoid of talent. And that Clippers team is 7th in defense without Kawhi playing. I don't get why Rockets fans are so bitter about the 2nd best Rocket player in team history. The man left the team with the biggest treasure chest of picks possible through his departure and never said a bad thing about the city. No reason to distort facts just to justify the team spending max money on a guy who is playing like utter crap right now.
     
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    But they wanted to sign an even worse player in Paul George who’s just as old and even more injury prone?

    Same Sixers owners who didn’t want to re-sign Jimmy Butler?

    bringing them up isn’t the flex u think it is…that organization is a clown show

    Harden would be the best player on the Rockets right now and is several tiers better than the likes of FVV and Jalen Green
     
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    James Harden’s last 10 games: 25, 5, and 8 on 42/40/92 splits taking 17 shots a game

    FVV last 10 games: 15, 4, and 6 on 35/29/88 splits taking 15 shots a game
     
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    Rockets are 3rd in the west, yet people are still wanting that loser James Harden. Last time I checked the Clippers were in our rear view at #9 fighting hard to keep that play-in spot. I don't care how many 40-point games Harden has, he will never win anyone a championship.
     
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    He quit on the team and got fat just so the front office would be forced to trade him. I’m not saying Fred was a great signing. The Rockets clearly overpaid for him but they can move on from him. Harden was expecting a max deal to come back here and he would have inevitably clashed with Ime.
     
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    This reminds me about the time TMac ruined his career not to be traded
    Which set our team back like 3 seasons

    Rocket River
     
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    The team quit on him long before he quit on the team. Him forcing the trade is the only reason we're decent now and have young talent. You think our idiot owner had the brains to rebuild?? Not a chance in hell.
     
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    You are the one distorting facts because if we got Harden you'd be hating how we are locked to his max contract till he is 40 and we'd have to do the same thing Minnesotta did which is lose a good player like Kat cuz they couldnt afford him.

    FVV is playing like a scrub rn. Thats true. But we can also cut and replace him in the offseason, something we wouldnt be able to do with Harden. And thats only possible cuz we paid FVV 40M.
     
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    If the owner never had the brains to rebuild why are you claiming the team quit on him before he quit on the team? You contradict yourself.

    Fertita pushed the WB trade to support Harden who obviously preferred his BFF to his now enemy Chris Paul. It failed thats why Harden quit on the team. According to reports Harden even told WB he wanted out thats why WB demanded a trade in the offseason.

    The only assets we have received from Harden trade so far are Cam Whitmore, Tari Eason and Reed Sheppard so dont credit our turnaround to Harden. Look up the facts before you make **** up.

    You call the owner the idiot but he is a self made billionaire and you didnt even understand how we got here. Pretty clear who is the one lacking in the IQ department between the 2 of you.
     
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    Personally I think he should have been a good employee and stayed. We could have been a low level playoff team who got knocked out in the first round a few more years, delaying the inevitable so that right now we would be watching a 20 win team instead of an exciting up and comer.
     
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