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Biden's Pardonapalooza

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Bandwagoner, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Redfish81

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    You don't know what you are talking about. Another soldier at Gallagher's trial admitted to killing the Isis prisoner. The government had given him immunity to testify. That is why Gallagher was acquitted on the charges related to killing the prisoner.

    I'm not saying Gallagher is some good guy or anything. You said he was pardoned by Trump. THAT IS NOT TRUE.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/20/us/eddie-gallagher-navy-seal-trial/index.html#:~:text=But in a stunning twist,Scott, a Navy SEAL medic.
     
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    You are absolutely correct. It was not a pardon. I apologize for using the inaccurate rhetoric.

    Trump used his powers as President to reverse the Court Marshall and re-instate him nullufying military justice and deminishing the courage of soldiers who did actually serve honorably and came out to rid the military of Gallagher the war criminal. But the powers Trump used wasnt the presidential pardon.
     
  3. tallanvor

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    And? There's a pardon office that makes suggestions. No president is going to hand pick every single person eligible.
     
  5. tallanvor

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    I have no doubt that, besides Hunter, Biden signed off on none of these pardons. he's making no decisions.

    In your opinion, why did the 'pardon office' decide to massively increase the number of pardons under Biden?
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    That should probably read "Pardons and Commutations by US President" and Biden's 8 thousand consists of: 6,500 pardons of simple-possession mar1juana convictions, 1,500 commutations of people on home confinement, plus a few individual cases including Hunter. Individual cases aside, they used an algorithm to determine beneficiaries and didn't do any handpicking -- which is why they're catching flak now because they didn't deny anyone because of the bad press they'd generate.

    The earlier pardon of mar1juana convictions I can understand. The public attitude about the criminalization of mar1juana has shifted and some of those federal punishments no longer feel commensurate to the crime. This last batch of commutations, though, I don't really get. Most of them were nearly done with their sentences and were supposedly rehabilitated -- but why not just have them finish? So a more cynical explanation presents itself: that it was a smokescreen to make the Hunter pardon look less exceptional, or else maybe hide some other special person in the crowd of commutations. That actually seems unlikely though. I do think the Admin has done a poor job of explaining and defending this action. But I'm also not going to lose too much sleep over it either. It is the President's unilateral power to exercise and he exercised it. We've seen abuse of the pardon power before and we will see more in the very near future. These commutations seem a littl capricious, but not corrupt.
     
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    How many criminals did trump put on home detention and removed from prison in 2020 under the cares act?

    5k of these pardons were for simple mar1juana conviced in DC lol what a disingenuous loser you are.
     
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    Something none of these MAGAs @tallanvor @AroundTheWorld won't mention in their disingenuous arguments is Biden hasn't pardoned a single person serving time in prison. Everyone Biden has pardoned has been in home confinement or served their sentences.
     
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    This b*stard of a judge caused untold pain and suffering to lots of families, several kids that were sent to a long sentence by him committed suicide. For Biden to commute this judge’s sentence is truly asinine and to seal his legacy as a shiit stain for a president in our history.
     
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    I'm looking forward to seeing to what extent Trump will carry out his promises of "revenge lawfare".

    He promised to drain the swamp last time but I can't say I was impressed with the effort.
     
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    Did the reason for pardoning the Asian sex offender emerge yet?
     
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    He'll start by slashing social programs and cutting taxes, that'll show the swamp who's in charge!
     
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    Looks like it was a prisoner swap. https://archive.is/UE6nB
     
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    you have 'revenge lawfare' in quotes. what's the context there? can you post what you are quoting?
     
  18. Invisible Fan

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    I put it in quotes because what he threatens and what he does aren't always the same thing.

    Isn't it common knowledge that Trump said he would be justified to do in kind with the prosecution he went through? I'm open to other sources if you're disputing that part.

     
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    So you are quoting nothing?

    He would be justified , but nobody made any claims of 'revenge lawfare' . U made that up. Its all a stupid attempt to protect the corrupt federal government. Any prosecution brought against it must be 'revenge'
     
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  20. Invisible Fan

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    Okay, spin this one.

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    Instead of conjuring up a storm of unconfirmed thoughts on my True and Ulterior Motives, maybe just take it for face value and move on?
     

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