1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    what has he done to earn a shot
     
  2. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    lol bias assumption conjecture
     
  3. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    need data on what you are saying.
     
  4. NewAge

    NewAge Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2013
    Messages:
    2,930
    Likes Received:
    3,139
    There are many players who blossom late, but none of them are top 2 picks. I've looked into this, it's an interesting pattern.

    It's about opportunity. Top 2 picks are given all the opportunity early on and if they don't shine early that's a sure sign of a bust.

    Late bloomers are the ones that are not given the opportunity early and have to hustle and grind to get the playing time and the opportunity.
     
    bustamove likes this.
  5. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    Another biased assumption. Also guards commit TO’s more frequently by nature of their position and responsibilities
     
    Chad Butler likes this.
  6. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    What decision making is that? Elaborate on this
     
  7. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    People have accepted shepperd just fine. People accept Cam even. Both players have not performed well. They accept Sengun although he commits quite a bit of mistakes each game. One player they do not accept is Green.
     
  8. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    What did he show us?
     
  9. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    yes it’s best you don’t engage with me since I would force you to actually think and analyze.
     
  10. kspires999

    kspires999 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 10, 2007
    Messages:
    415
    Likes Received:
    656
    So, just to be clear, Jalen should be coming off the bench? /s
     
  11. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    More ignorance. Lol at this point it’s useless with people like you. No point in educating a mob out for blood rooted in false information and bias.
     
    Chad Butler likes this.
  12. bustamove

    bustamove Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2024
    Messages:
    1,083
    Likes Received:
    929
    "He should be coming off the bench."
     
  13. cheke64

    cheke64 Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2009
    Messages:
    25,752
    Likes Received:
    17,666
    You're really asking for data when people keep posting his stats everyday. Just click one page back.
     
  14. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    nope. I asked specifically for what the poster was talking about

    And here’s the thing posting some “stats” and citing some “metrics” means the data presented is biased. That’s why I combat such misinformation giving people a look at other angles other perspectives rather than the tired “he sucks” bullshi+
     
  15. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    7,600
    Sheppard is a rookie who has barely played, comparing that to a guy in his 4th year is nonsense. If reed is garbage 2 years from now, he’ll get the same hate jalen does (maybe not as much since he wasn’t nearly as highly regarded as a prospect). Sengun is not perfect obviously but he’s a fringe allstar level player. If you like something like bball reference gamescore, sengun has 11 games of 20+ (good games) and 6 single digit ones (bad games). Jalen has 5 good ones and 15 bad ones. Of course the guy who’s playing worse will get criticized more, it wouldn’t make sense for that to not be the case.
     
  16. Stephen_A

    Stephen_A Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2016
    Messages:
    5,905
    Likes Received:
    4,918
    You are assuming that Sheppard or Cam would be hated the same after a few years. You also need to go back to 2021 and read some of those posts.

    Jabari has received a good deal of hate as well. The hate was present and clear in the first second year not just the last 2. Again Sengun makes several mistakes per game but those are not highlighted and criticized as they do Green. Not at all in many cases. Where are threads and posts filled with criticism, assumptions, false information for Sengun? Sure there has been criticism on his defense but the overall consensus is he is a “high IQ” player despite a lot of bad decisions each game. bias. Judgement. Hate.
     
  17. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    7,600
    Cam was a low pick, if he's even a rotation player he's exceeded expectations. You're gonna have different expectations/reactions to a guy who was picked 2nd vs a guy picked 16th, that's how it always has been and always will be. If Sengun sucked almost every game like jalen has this season, he would get way more criticism/hate. Yes, there are a couple people who "hate" jalen for non basketball reasons, but there's also a couple of those who are the same way towards sengun. If the rockets spent the 2nd pick on a weisman or a bagley, you don't think the fans would hate on them?
     
  18. DatRocketFan

    DatRocketFan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,664
    Likes Received:
    17,776
    What are u counting as good games bc its sounds like u pull it out of your ass to hate on green.

    Sheppard should b sht on bc he came out the gate looking even worse than either Smith and Green did. He's not even doing well in practice for ime to reward him with more mins. A 3rd pick should not b struggling to get on the court. He has underperformed for sure.
     
    Stephen_A likes this.
  19. Sooner423

    Sooner423 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2002
    Messages:
    5,613
    Likes Received:
    1,787
    These Jalen goobers have "leave Britney alone!" vibes.
     
  20. astrosrule

    astrosrule Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2002
    Messages:
    7,701
    Likes Received:
    7,600
    Ya reed has sucked, as basically all rookies do. You're welcome to crap on him as much as you like. I just picked gamescore of 20+ as good and sub 10 as bad, you can use whatever numbers you want. I don't really ever trash rookies since i expect them to suck.

    What exactly is your complaint? Like even jalen's biggest supporters have to agree that he has been horrible this season no?
     
    Sooner423 likes this.

Share This Page