Green showed us his potential in 22-23. He drove to the paint 12.9 times a game. Since Udoka took over he avg 9.5 drives per game. Touches down from 34.1 in 22-23 to around 25 since Udoka. But here’s something to think about. How much of this criticism and hate is about what people want him to be on the basis of their own unrealistic, unfair and lofty expectations and demands rather than accepting and celebrating him and his journey to become a better player?
Lets be honest, if he can't improve his shooting / scoring then he isn't an NBA player. A 6th man is generally a guy who is really good at something scoring / shooting / defense / shot creation but either has a better player in front of him or is just lacking in some other aspect that keeps him playing against 2nd units - tunnel vision / poor defense. When Jalen's shot isn't falling .... what exactly is he good at?
Dude, its like you're teaching Algebra to 1st graders. You're waaay over their head. Lol In their mind's everything is Jalen's fault. He pass the ball into Alpi and Alpi misses, we'll Jalen didn't throw the ball where Alpi likes it. No matter what happens, it's going to be on Jalen. They don't see that he he is a DOWN HILL PLAYER and he has no space to operate. JEFF GREEN A 15YR VET SAID IT LAST NIGHT BUT THE PEOPLE ON HERE KNOW MORE....I've heard people say it's his fault because he has NO COUNTERS. With the other team's best defenders guarding him, common since tells you he needs SCREENS, as you pointed out. When Fred has the ball, playing PNR with Alpi, Jalen is stashed in the corner on the other side of the court. Just as you pointed out, he is less involved in the offense. I said last yr, the offense is ANTIQUATED. This is not how you can win in the playoffs, we saw a big glimpse of this last night. Playing through Sengun/Senhub/Baby Jokic is not going to win a championship. Of Alpi is off, EVERYTHING is off. You have to have an offense where the ball is moving, the court is spread, the players are moving and everyone is touching the ball. I love the way the Hawks completely changed their team in one yr. Sure Tre is still the man, but they have length on the wings, they have players moving, cutting, and most importantly the court is SPREAD, so players can operate.
The sooner we trade him the better. I was holding out hope that he'd perform better when the spot light is on but that isnt happening. And really, its not all on Jalen. He's just in the unfortunate position of trying to fill a role that hes not suited for. He's not good enough to be what we want him to be. What we needed him to be was a 1a alpha, but he's not even a 1b. He's not even a guy youd want as your third best player on a championship team. The team paid him and continues to put him in a role he's not good enough to be in. At this point the best thing that could happen is that he has a good hot stretch to end the season and we go ahead and trade him while that is fresh on team's minds. Its time for us to move on.
We will never win a championship because every other game our starting backcourt shoots 2-20 from three..
I agree. The opportunity cost of this blind faith in Jalen is large. Cam could be better, could be worse. Given what he showed us last year, I think it's worth exploring more. What's at risk of happening now is Cam being moved before we've really seen what he can be.
Yup this is a lot of it. He was the biggest asset we got in the harden deal, the trade allowed us to tank and keep our pick, we got lucky in the lottery and got the 2nd pick. Expectations for him were sky high and now he has a 20% of the cap contract so people expect him to be at the minimum a high end starter. I’ve accepted that i was wrong about him, so watching yesterday’s game i was not disappointed at all, because he played exactly how i expected. He played what for him, in a touch matchup was about a C game. Everyone in different stages of the 7 steps, once more people get to the acceptance stage, you will see a lot less bashing of him.
Everyone is talking about poor shooting, rightfully so but I am more bothered his lack of development in his drives to the rim. Neither his technique, nor his decision making improved. Maybe not fair after a game against top defensive team but it is the same against all. Unless he has wide open lanes, he can’t finish.
Jalen is who he is - an inconsistent scorer, who can heat up from time to time, plays better against bad opponents, and struggles against good defense. He should be a sixth man on a good team - and will never be a star,i DD
Team's second units are the type of players Jalen lights up. He should be coming off the bench. He plays better without Sengun on the court. Jalen should be coming off the bench. Jalen plays better in a fast transition game. He should be coming off the bench.
I think that's a reasonable next step with him, but I wouldn't say he couldn't be a late bloomer and become a star down the line.
He was yawning at the warmup... It was predictable what was about to happen. In parallel, Alperen always starts the games worse than he finishes, I'm convinced he needs to rethink his pre game routine. As for Jalen, yep, he probably got carried away by the Vegas experience, or didn't rested well on the trip. Anyway, it's obvious he suffers against physical elite defenses like any normal player does (like Van vleet, for instance), and that's what he is right now, an standard NBA player. With upside, potential, but a rotation level player. Thats not bad news to me at this point. Last season, I remember he was far from being that by this time (he really didnt deserved a single mintue out there). Improvement is not reflected on the stats because the exigency level from the opponents has rised but I definitely see an improvement. Still raw, inmature, still weak, since he arrived to the league EXTREMELY raw and lost a year or 2 of real development, but honestly, I trust more rigth now on the chances of him becoming something good, than a season ago.
You're right, it's slim pickings. Chauncey Billups, Kyle Lowry, Stockton , Nash, maybe Dragic? ...interestingly, all point guards
The thing is that Nash and Dragic were good shooters by year two. Nash had a 45.9 FG% and 41.50 3 PT% his 2nd year in the league. 47.7 FG% and 40.3 3 PT% in his 4th year. Dragic had a 45.2 FG% and 39.4 3 PT% his second year in the league. He had a 47.2 FG% and and 51.9 3 PT% in his 4th year. Jalen had a 41.7 FG% and 33.8 3PT% in his 2nd year and has a 39.5 FG% and 31.3 3 PT% in his fourth year.
