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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. InTheGroove

    InTheGroove Member

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    DO NOT ACQUIRE ARENADO...

    Trade Pressley + FV + one of Blanco/Whitley/Javier/Garcia/France... (via multi-teams)
    for
    no less than at least a #2 & #3 SP, no less than a #1 bullpen RP, athletic/playmaking RF, stud 1B/OF/DH who won't sit out 4 months with a bruised shin....

    Find the dude who makes Alvarez step up his plate game. (edit: go find the next big man)
    Dude has potential to be the next Judge/Soto of the league, but doesn't have anyone pushing him... go build that 2017 ballclub again

    Pay the man his money. If Bregman CAN/WILL consistently get better over the next 6.5-7.5 yrs and complement your IF/lineup and be the guy to mentor the next gen, sign his ass Monday morning at 8am. If not, offer him a WELL above-average deal for 3-4yrs (w player/club opt-out on the last yr dependent upon performance)


    edit2: this is why they dont pay me money to make decisions.
     
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  2. lnchan

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    Are personal services contracts still part of free agent deals like we had with Roger back in the day...?
     
  3. IdStrosfan

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    What happened to the Brandon Lowe talk?
     
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  4. Nook

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    Astros reached out to Bregman after the Tucker trade to say they still have interest in him. Having said that, I cannot see them going over 200 million.

    The interest in Nolan Arenado is genuine but it takes the Cards and Arenado to be interested as well.
     
  5. IdStrosfan

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    Mets are trying to find a way to get rid of Starling Marte? Astros NEED MLB level OFs

    He wasn't bad when he was able to get on the field. Owed $20.75M and is a 1 year rental.

    That's about $15M too much.

    Pressly to Mets for Marte, LuisAngel Acuna and $5M?

    Acuna could allow them to trade Pena or be flipped in a package to TB (for Lowe) or ChW (for Robert)
     
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  6. IdStrosfan

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    I still think they need to bite the bullet and give him 7/$200M

    It's an overpay, but
    1. The team needs him in the short term, even if not in the long-term.
    2. The last 2 years, Altuve will be off the books.
    3. He is still good enough and young enough to get 20 WAR over those 7 years so the contract shouldn't be tragically bad.
    4. He is a franchise icon who will be approaching team milestones at the end of that deal
    Sign him, move Paredes to 1b, get a couple of real MLB outfielders and crush the AL West for several more years in a row.
     
  7. Htown Stros

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    Really wish we could just get lucky and hit on a player who clearly has talent but somehow hasn’t put it together like Robles or Profar last year. Don’t know if there’s anyone available that fits that criteria but damn that would be nice.
     
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  8. Htown Stros

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    Any idea why they are interested in Arenado? Surely they aren’t planning on trading away more prospects so STL will eat salary…
     
  9. AkeemTheDreem86

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    A balanced breakfast?

    Nine out of ten of your moms agree that it is, and they would know!

    Whatever. Sign Breg already.
     
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  10. AkeemTheDreem86

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    I like @whiskeyred 's narrative better.

    Harumph.
     
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  11. sealclubber1016

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    Arenado is coming off 2 seasons of decreasing offensive and defensive results. Sure the guy from last season is still a solid player, but I see no reason to be confident we would be getting even that guy.

    I might be willing to take him off their hands, but I'm not giving up anything of note for him.
     
  12. Buck Turgidson

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    I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy

     
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    Brown became a stud after he learned how to throw a cutter and was very inconsistent.

    Framber will have a bad game every 5-6 starts. His playoff performance needs to improve. Most of the time he pitches like a SP1.

    We'll see about Blanco and Arrighetti. Usually starters improve after their first full rookie season.
     
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  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Framber went 12-4 (team 16-4) with a 2.35ish ERA after June 1. I'll take that kind of "absolute disaster" every damn year.
     
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    After Abreu, I'm just super skeptical of adding an aging player on a larger contract who's declining offensively. Not saying Arenado is the same situation, and I'm sure the front office is doing their homework. But if you add Arenado and he immediately becomes dead weight like Abreu did, they're going to feel very foolish, and that contract is going to hurt. The Cardinals would need to eat a lot of that money for me to feel comfortable.

    I'd just much rather be pursuing younger players with more prime left in their careers, even if those guys come at a greater cost. Ideally, you get Bregman back, which kills the Arenado talk.
     
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  16. Snake Diggit

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    At this point because of the quantity of holes in their lineup I’d just as soon Houston sign 3 guys from the 3rd tier of free agency rather than go for one big guy (especially if that target is a QO guy who will cost a draft pick).

    1B: Carlos Santana, Josh Bell, Jorge Polanco, Paul Goldschmidt, Ty France, Donovan Solano, Justin Turner
    LF: Mark Canha, Alex Verdugo, Jesse Winker, Joc Pederson, Eloy Jimenez, JD Martinez
    RF: Max Kepler, Dylan Carlson, Tommy Pham, Jason Heyward, Ramon Laureano
     
  17. the shark

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    Nook can you confirm what the Astros have on the table to Bregman? Originally they offered 6/156 but I thought they increased it to 6/186. However I keep reading the offer is 6/156.
     
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  18. sealclubber1016

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    Yeah, I was against a guy like Goldschmidt when we were looking at 25 as the last best chance.

    Now that it seems the team is taking a half in, half out retool on the fly approach, I would rather not invest in any of the remaining big names not named Bregman.
     
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  19. awc713

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    My morning starts off better whenever I get to see a Tony Sipp reference
     
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  20. dholi_1

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    Framber had a war of 4.5 which was 10th in the league. That number was the highest of his career

    he has been disappointing recently in the playoffs but was nails earlier in his career

    Put me in the “extend Framber” group
     
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