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[Official] Astros Off Season Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 2, 2024.

  1. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
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    Really? Who among the currently projected starting pitchers do you have confidence in, and why?
     
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    Framber/Brown/Blanco/Arrighetti, I've also got hope for guys like Blubaugh/Gusto/Dombrowsi/Brito etc.... and Garcia, although I would like to see Garcia as the 7th inning guy in the bullpen.
     
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    I google "Alex Bregman" and hold my breath just hoping not to read "New York Yankees Acquire Alex Bregman." Anywhere but New York will be a win to me at this point.
     
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    Stop stop stop. Even if it a joke. LOL
     
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  5. Bobbythegreat

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    Wow, that's a lot of undeserved faith IMO, hope you're right.

    Could Blanco continue to get lucky with his ERA being so much lower than his FIP? Maybe, but it's hard to bet on.

    Framber was an absolute disaster for most of the season last year.

    Brown and Arrighetti are highly inconsistent, one day they look great, the next they look like they are AA players.

    With luck, I'm sure it could be fine, but I don't have faith in ANY of those guys.
     
  6. Htown Stros

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    Serious question…do you even watch the games? I don’t see how anyone who watched every Hunter Brown start from May onward last season wouldn’t have confidence he’s a #2 at worst. It’s more likely he’s a #1 than a #3.

    I guess you’re just completely writing off Luis Garcia. Most players not named Lance McCullers have comeback from TJ and been fine so don’t really see how you have came to the conclusion he’s done and/or a #5 starter. He’s got a career 3.6 ERA and 1.16 WHIP with a K/9 above 9.

    If you want to say Blanco is going to regress…OK. But he pitched much better than a #5 last year.

    Pretty much what you’ve laid out…2 #2s and 3 #5s is absolute worst case scenario yet you’re passing it off like its most likely and we need “luck” from these guys to improve on that.
     
  7. Htown Stros

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    Lmao Brown was inconsistent after May last year? Yeah, you clearly weren’t watching the games then

    And Framber was a complete disaster last season? That’s crazy you can be a complete disaster and end up with a 2.91 ERA.
     
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  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Yes. Obviously I watch the games....and I've probably been doing so for longer than you've been alive.

    With Brown, he's inconsistent, but I have more faith in him than any other starting pitcher on the roster....which is why I described him as one of the "#2 or #3 quality starters" in a previous post. I think he could be ace quality one day, but A LOT would have to go right for that to happen this season.

    When it comes to Garcia, what are you expecting? He was a mid to high 3's ERA type guy before he was injured and he'll be coming back after missing almost 2 full years. Could he be as good as a #3 quality pitcher? Maybe....but most projections have him as a #5 quality pitcher. Point being, it's hard to count on much from him without just going full homer goggles.

    When it comes to Blanco, I don't trust pitchers that have ERA's significantly higher than their FIP....and when guys have significantly lower ERA's than their FIP, I see a breakout season being possible. Blanco was a guy with a 2.8 ERA and a 4.15 FIP. If his luck runs out, we're talking about just another 4 ERA guy....what would you call that?

    The 2 #2's or #3's and 3 #5's is not a worst case scenario, that's the expected scenario based on the early projections. Worst case is worse than that.
     
  9. cmlmel77

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    You are wasting your time. That guy goes on every thread in the Rockets forum, screams nonsense as loudly as he can, and doubles down ad infinitum when challenged. He’s the shock jock of the BBS, though I suspect his special brand of lunacy is not just an act.
     
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  10. No Worries

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    Daryl Ward size?
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I deal with enough of you guys when talking about how Jalen Green played in a handful of games in one month of a season and projecting superstardom based on that.

    Even in September of last season, he'd have a game where he pitched 6 scoreless, followed by a game where he gave up 5 earned runs in 5 innings...so yes, he's always been inconsistent.

    With Framber, it was really more June and July when he struggled and he did have some good games towards the end....but when you consider his ace status, saying "complete disaster" is pretty accurate....you aren't typically expecting your ace to give up 8 earned runs in ANY game or 5 in 4 innings. That's disastrous for an ace.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Those who have nothing of substance to back their claims are definitely wasting their time, and we both know that's the VAST majority of posters on this BBS.

    I have a long standing policy of encouraging dumb people to block me so they don't derp up threads with feeble minded BS arguing against objective facts.
     
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    He should have also been banned by Clutch decades ago. If Clutch had the balls.
     
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  14. Htown Stros

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    One start out of 9 total August and September starts where he allowed more than TWO runs. I guess the others are right…you’re either a moron or troll.
     
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  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Not everyone is a loser like you who wants anyone who disagrees with them banned.

    The fact that Dave is a better person than you should shame you into silence.....alas here we are.
     
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    What’s a more plausible outcome:

    Reed Sheppard becomes an all star caliber player within 5 years or the Astros win another championship within 5 years?

    ;):eek::)
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    ....okay, since you hilariously still have complete faith in his ace status, how did he do for the Astros in the playoffs last season? 3 ER in 4.1 innings....I guess your blind faith was TOTALLY warranted, right?

    I get that maybe you are just a blind homer, or maybe just someone who doesn't actually follow the team, but the Framber of last season was NOT the guy that we had all come to rely on as all but a guaranteed quality start. He was still good by overall pitching standards, but not for a top tier ace....not for what we expect from Framber. He had multiple outings when he just didn't have it at all.

    It's kind of like arguments I got into with people who still had blind faith in Pressly, who still thought he should be the closer.

    It's just absurd and makes me question if you even watch the games at all.
     
  18. Jay713

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    Man, Daryl Ward had such a good looking swing.
     
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  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Either scenario could happen, 5 years is a long time.

    Would I be willing to bet money on either outcome happening? No.
     
  20. 13 in 33

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    Breggy already has the 6 year offer. Seems like he's waiting on other teams to offer 7 or 8 years
     

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