Yeah I worked at plenty of startups, boss. Point is exactly that you can't just look at profits when you think about how much these companies generate because a lot of what the C-level and high level execs get in massive salary, pay-outs, bonuses, and stock that reduces profits but are clearly part of the wealth these guys are getting. And yes, I have been on the receiving side of a nice chunky payout for a company that was losing money every year.
I understand the point you are trying to make. There is much more to how they obfuscate their real profits, but that's for another thread.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/br...unitedhealthcare-shooting-12-10-24/index.html Along with a three-page handwritten “claim of responsibility,” as police characterized Luigi Mangione’s manifesto, investigators are also looking at pages of notes in a spiral notebook that the 26-year-old wrote in, a law enforcement source briefed on the matter told CNN. It included to-do lists of tasks that needed to be completed to facilitate a killing, as well as notes justifying those plans, the source said. In one notebook passage, Mangione wrote about the Unabomber who CNN has previously reported Mangione wrote about in posts online as well. In the passage in the notebook, Mangione concludes that using a bomb against his intended victim “could kill innocents” but shooting would be more targeted, musing what could be better than “to kill the CEO at his own bean counting conference.” ______________________ An online blogger who corresponded for months with Luigi Mangione said the UnitedHealthcare shooting suspect expressed a diverse range of political viewpoints, including support for a nationalized healthcare system. Mangione was a subscriber to Gurwinder Bhogal’s Substack, “The Prism,” and the two corresponded this past spring. They held a two-hour video chat in May, when Mangione said he was in Japan, and exchanged almost 20 emails and direct messages on X and Substack, Bhogal told CNN. He says Mangione told him he subscribed to his blog after reading an August 2023 article where Bhogal explained “how people today live in rigid tribes.” Mangione, Bhogal said, appreciated how he identified how individuals could express varying opinions, depending on the issue. “This seemed to resonate with Luigi because he was also left-wing on some things and right-wing on others,” Bhogal told CNN in an email. “For instance, he was pro-equality (of opportunity) but anti-woke (i.e. anti-DEI, anti-identity politics). He opposed wokeism because he didn’t believe it was an effective way to help minorities.” The two also discussed healthcare. Bhogal, who is based in the United Kingdom, said Mangione complained how expensive healthcare was in the US and “expressed envy at the UK’s nationalized health system.” Bhogal says he only vaguely remembers Mangione discussing a back injury he sustained while surfing in Hawaii. Their last correspondence was in June. “He was so thoughtful and polite,” said Bhogal, who described himself as bewildered when he saw Mangione’s name as the suspect in the shooting of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. “He seemed like the last person I’d suspect of murdering someone.” https://nypost.com/2024/12/10/us-news/luigi-mangione-had-concern-for-the-future-of-humanity-pal/ “Overall, the impression I got of him, besides his curiosity and kindness, was a deep concern for the future of humanity, and a determination to improve himself and the world,” Bhogal said in an email to The Post. Mangione specifically wanted to discuss two of Bhogal’s Substack articles during the call. One piece, entitled “Why Everything is Becoming a Game,” is about Unabomber Ted Kaczynski’s life. “Luigi disapproved of the Unabomber’s actions, but was fascinated by his ideology, and shared his concerns about rampant consumerism gradually eroding our agency and alienating us from ourselves,” Bhogal said. Mangione also expressed his views on Kaczynski — who killed three and injured 23 more between 1978 and 1995 — online, liking one of is quotes and writing a review of his manifesto. The other article, “Why You Are Probably an NPC“, which stands for Non Player Character, briefly discusses healthcare. “On healthcare I’m a socialist,” Bhogal writes. “I believe everyone should be entitled to free medically necessary treatment regardless of background.” Bhogal does not recall whether Mangione mentioned any medical issues on the call, though he did complain about how expensive the American healthcare system was and “expressed envy at the UK’s nationalized health system.” Mangione also expressed concerns about smartphone addiction during their conversation. He was a premium subscriber to Bhogal’s Substack, opting to pay $200 a year instead of the typical $60. Bhogal described Mangione as “genuinely one of the nicest people I’ve ever met” in a X post about their interactions. He says his reaction to news Monday that Mangione was arrested was one of “bewilderment.” “He was so thoughtful and polite that he seemed like the last person I’d suspect of murdering someone,” he added.
Sure but point is that the insurance industry is doing a lot better than 90 billion in profits out of that 1.7 trillion in net rev. The cats in your side view mirror are a lot larger than they appear.
I think it's pretty obvious. Dude had surgery. Was still in debilitation pain and needed more health care. Insurance company denied him. And he snapped.
It's even dumber not to have wheels stashed at the end point of your bus trip. Only logical explanation is that he knew he wasn't getting away with it and just wanted to bask in the media buzz it was all generating.
Doesn’t surprise me, honestly. I’m sure he anticipated getting caught dead or alive at some point and wanted the world to know his story.
Insurance Companies are run by some really terrible people and deserve to get some punishment for all the harm they do to their sick customers, but you still can't just murder the boss and think its going to be happy times. There is a reason universal health care doesn't get passed its because the insurance companies are in the pockets of congress so nothing ever changes.
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/luigi-m...kaczynski-f72bc9ea?mod=hp_opin_pos_3#cxrecs_s The Madness of Luigi Mangione Too many young men marinate in angry corners of the internet. By The Editorial Board Dec. 10, 2024 at 5:41 pm ET The arrest of 26-year-old Luigi Mangione on the charge of murdering a healthcare CEO ends the hunt for the mystery man with a hoodie. But what it doesn’t solve is the mystery of why an intelligent, well-liked young man who had much to live for would allegedly shoot a stranger in the back on a New York street. One possible explanation is that he had some kind of mental break, as many young men do in their 20s. The facts of his life in recent years are coming fast and perhaps too furious to trust on the fly. But it appears that a back injury, followed by surgery, had left him in pain and frustrated. He had become isolated from family and long-time friends. As many young men also do, he trafficked in theories of exploitation and blame that dominate corners of the internet. He saw wisdom, not madness, in the writings of Ted Kaczynski, the notorious “Unabomber.” The manifesto that Mr. Mangione allegedly wrote, and that authorities say they found upon his arrest, railed against the U.S. healthcare system. Perhaps he saw himself as an avenging hero who would take on that system. This is a common trait of young men—and they are mostly young and men—who justify violence with the perverse logic of a cause. It doesn’t take much for a disturbed individual to pick up the populist theme of blaming seemingly distant and faceless corporations for social ills and flipping a mental switch into murder. Internet sites and podcasts on the right and left often marinate in these resentments. Yet the man Mr. Mangione shot was neither faceless nor distant. He was Brian Thompson, a married father of two who was walking to a business meeting several feet away from the shooter. He was doing what his company, UnitedHealthcare, and its shareholders asked him to do. He was, like the unabomber’s targets, innocent. It’s a dreadful sign of the times that Mr. Mangione is being celebrated in too many places as a worthy avenger instead of an (allegedly) deranged killer. But that is how our culture has degraded—egged on for political purposes or audience ratings by many who know better. Brian Thompson’s sons will never see him again. Mr. Mangione faces a murder charge in New York that could send him to prison for the rest of his life. Anyone who sees that as anything other than a tragedy deserves the scorn that we hope they receive. Appeared in the December 11, 2024, print edition as 'The Madness of Luigi Mangione'.
How do we know so much about this guy but not the Trump shooters? "Oh no, they didn't have social media" Not buying it
