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United Healthcare CEO murdered in NYC midtown

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 4, 2024.

  1. Nook

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    It isn't going to herald a revolution, it just gives a sliver of what is going on under the veneer of "proper society".
     
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  3. Nook

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    It isn't a left versus right issue - and you get that because you are not married at the hip to a political party. This is about failings in the social systems and a lack of confidence people have in authority figures and institutions. There are a lot of people, that do not feel that the social system includes their interests.
     
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    It also highlights a trend.
    It doesn't matter which side one is, left -v-right but once they get to fringe, there is a convergence.
    How else can one understand JFK Jr and Tulsi who were prominent supporters of Bernie, become aligned with Trump and be the cabinet members in this Admin.

    The right and left as I knew it seems to have changed
     
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    Now he is a WORKING CLASS HERO of the COMMON MAN!
    Where was this narrative 2 days ago?

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    or was he a crab stepping on other crabs to get out of the bucket??
     
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    Yes this is called the Horseshoe Theory
     
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    The Right: We should NEVER Celebrate murders
    The Right When on of theirs murders: HE'S NOT A MURDER HE IS A GOTTD*MN HERO!! SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MURDE. .. .er. . . KILL TO SAVE LIVES!!!


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  8. Nook

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    Fit what profile?

    You take widespread social dissatisfaction and unrest, institutions that are not fair - a lack of equity and you end up throwing profiles out the window. There is also the possibility of mental illness as well.
     
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    That's Bruce Wayne's daddy! Luigi is a real life joker!!!
     
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    1) elon himself joked about assassinating the sitting president vice president multiple times including inside a church.

    2) you mock people who have violence brought upon them and accuse them of being gay. was that the kind of example of hate on this forum that you are talking about? how are you any different than those you accuse of being hateful?
     
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    Sounds like he is not going to want to go silently into the night.
     
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    Will be interesting if he goes to jury, some may not want to convict him.

    DD
     
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    WTF are you talking about? Some lol... He murdered someone, everyone who isn't r****ded will convict him.....
     
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  15. Nook

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    They can get a jury to convict him if the evidence is there.

    While there isn't a lot of empathy for the CEO - and a lot of people understand why the assassin did what he did, it doesn't mean that they will let him walk free.

    To me - the telling part, or what should concern people is the lack of empathy or sympathy Americans have for the dead CEO - which gives a look at the level of dissatisfaction out there over American institutions.

    However - I still think people would convict him. I don't think we are at the point where they would let him walk.
     
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    The profile of someone who had one of the following backgrounds/excuses/triggers to commit a cold-blooded murder:
    • difficult childhood
    • poverty
    • "nothing to lose"
    • "wronged by the system"
    • criminal history
    • history of violence (experienced and/or committed)
    • being a victim in any way
    Could still have to do with drugs or mental illness - or indoctrination.
     
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    The lack of empathy is an indictment of the morals and value system of those who display it.
     
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    Interesting.

    I don't think it is a Gen Z issue - but I do think that those under 50 are more likely to lack empathy for the dead CEO and be indifferent to what happened to him. I compared it to the murder or a prominent mafia boss. We are seeing some generational cracks though, and socio-economic ones as well when it comes to how people view business, government and even morality.

    I am in the camp where I do not applaud the killing of the man, I would not do it - I would not cover or hide or protect him - and if I saw him, I would call authorities.... but I also understand why someone could view the CEO as a bad person.... I can also understand why someone else could be outraged that people are indifferent or even tacitly understanding of it.

    Also - as for the Unibomber, I don't see how anyone can idolize him. I have read his manifesto and while his observations are relevant to some degree, that is as far as it goes. He was a brilliant but very damaged and dangerous man.
     
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    While there are certainly people that commit murders - many of which fit those patterns, when it comes to assassinations, often times it comes down to mental illness.

    Indoctrination is going to be the claim of those that want to make this into a "right" versus "left" debate - but it is silly. Also, the opinions and the media that he followed is not at all consistent with a "leftist" indoctrination. Many of his views don't neatly fit any clear philosophy.

    He is the right age for mental illness - and that is also consistent with the self-isolation.
     
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    Where is the empathy for all of the people that died as a result of United's very high claims denial and stalling under this CEO? Why is that not discussed?

    Like most things in life - there is more to the story.

    I feel bad that the CEO lost his life, and I certainly feel bad for his children and parents.
     
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