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Man Dies After Chokehold in Subway in NYC

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, May 4, 2023.

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    There's always some deadbeat dad who all of a sudden cares about their kid after having nothing to do with them their whole life when they see dollar signs. They pop up out of nowhere when their son signs to the NFL, NBA, or any other type profession that makes them instantly wealthy.
     
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    Mental gymnastics.
     
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    This woman is an idiot
     
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    Always
     
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    Here comes the paid lefty rioters

     
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    Again, who did he attack?
     
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    Woke people love harming businesses
     
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    Why do you think Penny was aquitted?
     
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    Honest answer would be the witnesses who helped subdue the man. At least what they said to the media seems to track that their testimony would be very helpful to Penny.

    Multiple things can be true though. Penny shouldn’t have used a choke hold to subdue the man and it’s likely that him and the others helping subdue the man had no idea he was in real danger of dying. If you know about chokeholds though with experience in something like jujitsu you know that it’s dangerous especially after longer than a few seconds.

    To me voluntary or involuntary manslaughter probably was the right charge but I’m not the prosecutor or the jury so it’s just my opinion. I don’t think he’s the hero the right thinks he is and I don’t think he comes off as a blood thirsty murderer either. Guy thought he was doing the right thing in the moment but went too far.
     
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    I would suggest not reading his posts
     
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    I brought this up earlier and why I said there is reasonable doubt. Chokeholds put in for an excessive time are dangerous. You can out off the air or blood supply to someone’s brain for a long period without it causing damage. The question to me though was how long was the actual hold on and how much did Penny know that he was or could likely be killing Neely?

    Even though Penny was a former Marine he is still a civilian and not an LEO so this situation isn’t the same as The killing of George Floyd where Chauvin had been trained and was exceeding that training in continuing the hold on. Also while it was initially reported they Penny had Neely in the hold for 15 minutes it’s not clear to me they was the case and how long the struggle was on before the hold was actually on.
     
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    Cosigning this post.

    Pretty much exactly how I feel.
     
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    Wouldn't want to be on with either. :confused:
     
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    LISTEN UP YOU DUMB F-CKS:

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    LEFT HAND KILLER BAD & CHILLING

    RIGHT HAND KILLER GOOD, NOT GUILTY

    GET IT YOU DUMB F-CKS? KILL THE HOMELESS, NOT THE CEO CLASS

    - NY Post, News Corp, Rupert Murdoch
     
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    And everyone with a moral compass and common sense.

    That means, not you.

    One guy shot an unarmed man in the back.

    The other defended people who were being attacked by a guy who shouted he wants to kill people.

    The NY Post has it right.
     
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    The NY Post should post a poll to see who is more popular.
     
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    Also lol the guys letter is like 200 words, it's barely a blog post, let alone a "manifesto"

    Elon tried to ban this from Twitter I believe, since he is scared, but here it is:

    https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/luigis-manifesto
     
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