[Official] Evan Mobley as a Cleveland Cavaliers thread

Mobley > Sengun

 

Absolutely not.

 

He's scoring at a similar rate but much more efficiently, a much better and more versatile defender, now a good 3PT shooter, equal rebounder. Playmaking is Senguns sole advantage over Mobley, it's a significant advantage though.

 

He also has a much more efficient scoring numero uno, and a better PG.

Mobley is their third option while Sengun is our offense's focal point.

If Mobley had to carry the same offensive load with the Rockets teammates facing the same defensive attention, you think he would still be this efficient?

 

Maybe not, but Mobley could also be scoring at a higher rate, with a higher assist numbers as well if here were a first option. So it's hard to compare apples to apples. It's also hard to know if Sengun would do as well in Mobleys situation either, Sengun likes to dominate the ball to score and isn't a great off-ball threat.

 

So we can't say Mobley is better than Sengun by just looking at their stats because the contexts are totally different.

 

To an extent, it's a consideration for sure.

Things like the 3PT shooting difference and defensive differences can more speak for themselves. From the eye test, it's likely Sengun is a better playmaker and ball handler, and Mobley a better off-ball scorer and lob threat (as a longer more explosive big).

Right now Mobley is elite in his role, and Sengun not so much. Sengun currently has a lower TS% than Jalen green at just 53%. Last season Sengun was a better, more efficient scorer (58% TS). Hoping he gets back to that.

 

Mobley has 3 all star teammates including Mitchell who has been playing at a superstar level. Sengun doesnt have one teammate who can shoot straight from 3. Mobley plays in the East, he plays weak ass tanking teams 3x more than Sengun who is in the ultra competitive West. Suns are 10th in the West with 12/11 they'd be 6th in the East. Finally as a lob threat and off the ball scorer Mobley should def be more efficient than Sengun who is the offensive hub of his team, thats like comparing a dude who isos vs a guy who just dunks every game.

Just looking at box score stats without context is not how to compare players.

If you have better teammates, play weaker competition and also play the sidekick role over the main guy logically you'd think you'd be more efficient than the other guy. Right?

 

Mobley should get a lot of credit

Sengun is shooting below his average. His efficiency was better last season.

Mobley should be given credit for his offensive improvement in his fourth season. I did not expect his 3pt shooting to improve that much.

So after less than a third of the season, one guy is shooting below his career average and the other guy is shooting above his average. I don't expect Sengun to shoot this bad for the whole season. He has missed so many bunnies that he could easily make. Let's see if Mobley can sustain his 40% 3pt shooting.

Again, you can't compare a role player's role to a first option offensive player's role. It's really hard to say an elite role player is a better player than a 2nd tier star player.

 

So Mobley eventually getting his Offense Coach of his dreams........

 

I was never a Mobley hater like some here, but had very serious doubts about his upside.

Props to him for becoming such a complete player. I respect guys who continue to improve AFTER hitting the jackpot.

He's never been entitled because the Cavs have been competitive every year and he's always played within his ability.

 

Evan Mobley on who will be the best player in the league in 5 years: "Either me or Victor Wembanyama"

 

All of us doubters of Evan Mobley gotta admit we were dead wrong about the guy. I never thought he would ever be this good and it's only his 4th year.

His production is what I expected Jabari to give the Rockets. The only thing left for him is becoming more of a volume threat from 3-point and gaining a few pounds to play C more often.

No doubt he'd be a 20+ ppg scorer if they didn't have two perimeter scorers like Donovan Mitchell and Darius Garland dominating the ball.

 

evan mobley trash against the rockets.

 

no the **** he would not.

 

I've always felt that comparing Mobley to Jabari makes more sense than to Jalen Green. They are both versatile big defenders. I thought Jabari had an edge because of his shooting on offense. But Jabari's offense has not been as good as I expected. Mobley on the other hand has taken a leap.

That said, Mobley is one year ahead of Jabari and Jabari's rookie season was spent on a chaotic team. There is still time for him to take a leap similar to Mobley's.