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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Good point.
     
  2. xtruroyaltyx

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    This exactly. Rockets legend jvg gave the sauce and some people still dont get it. Never ignore in victory what you wouldnt in defeat. Thats not just sports, thats life.

    I stayed up all night drinking and partying, rolled out of bed and still passed the test. Maybe ill just keep doing that the night before every test.

    I came completely unprepared and unprofessional for the job interview and they still hired me. Maybe its ok if I do that for every job interview now.


    Some are just being intentionally obtuse because they've picked a side and cant go back now. I refuse to believe anyone thats made it this far in life doesnt understand that eventually chickens come home to roost.
     
  3. daywalker02

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    Maybe I should hire you to take my exams.

     
  4. MadMax

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    I feel like we’re not watching the same team or the same games. The 2024/5 Rockets absolutely have a style. It’s a style that was pretty predictable given who their coach is. It’s a style that other franchises have won multiple titles with. The style overcomes the deficiencies they have from a talent/personnel standpoint.
     
  5. daywalker02

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    The only teams that come to my mind were the Bad Boy Pistons and the 2004 Pistons with Billups.

    All those teams had either Rodman or Ben Wallace on their team.

    Those teams were so unique that every starter was doing different things.

    It is tough as nails to win it all with a mediocre Offense.

     
  6. DatRocketFan

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    folks are btching and painting jalen green as being a dead weight while we are winnin are the weird ones. Are folks enjoyin the wins if they are btching about green nonstop? Man is inconsistent but he is still able to contribute. expectations arent met sure but he's not holding the team back from success.

    If ime thinks green isn't meant to start or b on the team it is what it is. like btching isn't gonna get green traded any faster. It's not like folks say anything new just regurgitate the same nonsense to btch about green
     
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    That wasn’t my point…i was responding to someone who is saying the rockets don’t have a definitive style of play. That seems crazy to me.

    but in response to your post…what was certainly true of the 2004 Pistons…and even the 1989 Pistons had only one player who averaged 20 ppg and it was right at 20 ppg…is that they were able to beat teams that had certain super HOF players repeatedly…guys who were finishing first and second team All NBA.

    But yes, it’s way easier to have one of the top 10 players in the game…provided you have that player.
     
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  9. astrosrule

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    Did you think people complaining about maldy were being weird also? Should green not be discussed at all in any situation? Or should nothing be discussed if we win a game?
     
  10. MadMax

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    I am absolutely enjoying the wins. I can hold two thoughts independent of one another at the same time.
     
  11. jogo

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    I think the person was right who said we'd have 2-3 more wins if we had a 38%-40% 3 point shooter instead of Jalen. If that is true (and it's an opinion) then the winning matters and how you win matters.

    And we are winning a lot of games and Jalen is not playing well. Why does that mean we have to accept his play and "enjoy the ride?"

    I guarantee that if ANY if any other Rockets player had Green's performances then he would be btched about nonstop.
     
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  12. roslolian

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    JG is still contributing to wins but he is clearly the worst player in the 5 man starter right now. He started off great with clutch shots but now his shooting has regressed to the worst of his career.

    Personally whats been a bigger disappointment to me is the lack of bball IQ happening offensively. Although he still plays great defense and hustles it seems his bball IQ on the court went from Zach Lavine to Smush Parker, like went from average to borderline mentally challenged. He makes dumb plays again and again and keeps taking those pull up mid range Js even if he only makes those 16% of the time. People keep talking about those drives but the drives actually help the team as JG is shooting 68% fg 0-3 ft from the rim. Too bad he is only doing it 21% of the time.

    Udoka should impose the moregball style from him and have him take wide open 3s or drives to the rim. Stop the mid range pull ups thats almost always a clanker and the opponent takes the reb and goes on a fast break.
     
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    Oh yeah? How come Reed Sheppard is playing worse than Jalen Green and people are still saying there are really happy where Sheppard is right now? Jalen has been the most hated Rocket in the post Harden era not sure where you think people have been coddling him. He has been the subject of hate and ridicule since day 1. Even the color of his nails are criticized.

    Jalen is getting minutes because of his defense and the spacing of his 3s. While he could def be a lot better, only Amen is outplaying him RN from the bench. Tari for example has been just as bad offensively shooting 30% from 3.
     
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    I would assume that people are giving Sheppard a longer leash because he has literally played less than 30 games whilst Jalen has more than 8 times that amount.
     
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    I have not read any posts that have stated that they are "Really happy where Reed is right now." Not one, and if there was, they would be an outlier. However, we understand why Reed has been underwhelming partially due to the reps and development time he has been allotted. He is averaging under 12 minutes per game while only taking 4 shots per game in a supporting role over only 23 games. Compared to Jalen's rookie campaign where he played over 32 minutes a game and averaged 14 shots per game.

    Reed supporters are being patient with Reed in his rookie year just as Jalen supporters are still claiming that we should be patient with Jalen in his fourth year. If Reed has the same trajectory of development as Jalen this far into his career, mostly everyone would be calling for Reed to be traded and that he is a bust, and rightfully so.

    Jalen Green is not playing due to his gravity as a three-point shooter; he is one of the least efficient three-point shooters on high volume. 32% on almost 8 3PA is not creating any spacing and it is evident when the opponents dare Jalen to shoot. He is playing because the FO has invested so much in him and doubled-down on this by signing him to a ridiculous contract extension.
     
  16. Corrosion

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    This team is winning despite Jalen, not because of him. He's been terrible outside of a handful of games and when he isn't scoring consistently, he just doesn't contribute to winning.

    I know, his defense is better .... better from atrocious to just bad most of the time ...

    Yes, he's holding this team back. You could replace him with some journeyman 3&D guy and improve the results.
     
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  17. HardenReturns

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    Please compare Reed's number of games and minutes to Green's.
    He's in the starting five, isn't he? With his level of contribution, if he's not tarred, feathered and stoned out of town, he is being coddled.
    Above it was Reed and now it's Tari. These are the players to whom you're comparing your 4th-year star.
    You suck.
    Green sucks.
    You both suck.
    Sucky-sucksuck.
     
  18. harold bingo

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    Bro you don't understand Maldys leadership out there......
     
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  19. DatRocketFan

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    panties in a bunch b/c we could have won 2-3 more wins.
    it's wild when we win it's cause of the team and not jalen. when we lose it's b/c of jalen.
    every single lost is b/c of jalen. we would b a championship caliber team if we didn't have jalen. like at this point the haters could just sprout a bunch of nonsense and u could just look through the thread and find the same sht.
    at least when the sengunatics sprout the same stuff it's them praising sengod with positivity.

    folks bring nothing of value, offers no reasonable trade target just btch nonstop. there's only so many ways u can voice your displeasure about green. if we make playoffs and he's a noshow we can trade him next year.
     
  20. rocketchamp

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    Yeah apparently Jalen is the only guy out there from their eyes. Ask them about Sengun
     

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