When did it become clear biden was the worst president of all time?

Americans are gullible people and will believe whatever you tell them over and over. I mean just today half of Tik Tok thought that Aliens were coming to fight us. If Trump had the legislative accomplishments that Biden had, the MAGA folks here would be screaming at us about how he's the greatest President ever. Because Trump's media ecosphere would repeat those accomplishments over and over and over again.

The issue is Biden himself can barely communicate because of his age, and media support system. And because the messaging from the left and the right is both negative about how all the time.

Even getting out of Afghanistan if that happened exactly the way it did under Trump would be the greatest exit from a war in History to most Americans because of the messaging apparatus in this country, and the gullible nature of Trump supporters.

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I personally think Biden was a decent governing president, but a weak President. He was weak and bullied on the world stage by Bibi, and Putin. He was bullied here domestically by political opposition constantly, and he didn't do what was necessary to fight back in a meaningful way.

In a normal world, communication is half of the job. In MAGA world communication is 98% of the job. Perception is their reality. In the end I probably rate him somewhere between Bill Clinton, and Jimmy Carter. Obama, LBJ, JKF, and certainly FDR would be higher ranked Democratic Presidents.

 

Trump is already the worst POTUS ever. He will widen the lead in his next term.

 

It is always funny to hear the 'murica first crowd **** on the only US president to conclude a war since basically Richard ****in' Nixon.

 

Please elaborate on this.

 

GWB signed it into law way back in 2007. After 10 years of public service (government or non-profit) and 120 monthly payments, you qualify for forgiveness.

 

The paradox of Trumpism: they want the world to respect their big swingin' dick, but don't want to do anything to show it off.

 

Do we not count Iraq?

OMG, I didn't realize there are still a decent amount of troops there.

 

For those that think that. . . . I think it was the moment he put the D by his name

Rocket River

 

when Biden signed into law

• infrastructure bill
  • one that Trump 1.0 failed to do so and
• chip act

after he had already passed the Inflation Reduction Act

 

Sadly, we just reelected the worst president of all-time.

 

It’s stuff like this why we aren’t a serious country anymore.

Biden certainly wasn’t perfect and deserves criticism for the withdrawal from Afghanistan, Hunter Biden pardon, and not getting out of the race earlier. As other posters noted he also got a lot meaningful legislation passed including in things that Trump and other presidents said they wanted. He also presided over record strong job growth, record stock market, and while inflation spiked it came down quite a bit. Even illegal border crossings have greatly dropped after a spike. On foreign policy he’s helped Ukraine remain independent while committing no US troops.

Biden said a lot of stupid things. Looked lost and hung around longer than he should have but legislatively he is one of the most consequential presidents. Even Republicans opponents in the Senate acknowledged how capable if a negotiator he was.

Another sign how we as a country and culture are more interested in imagery, memes and vibe than actual record.

 

Non-stop winning w Bidenomics Booming Economy!

This is where MAGA and Tea Party caucus come in and up the deficit spending!

2024- The U.S. Nearly Had a $2 Trillion Deficit Again

 

This thread is useless until we hear from his number one only fan astro123.

 

Lib meltdown which is common for a few in here. Everything is about Trump

 

thru sleight-of-hand---diverting attention away from the deficits/debt increases by MAGA Trump 1.0---Invisible is parroting an one-sided false narrative
to cover up MAGA Trump 1.0's fiscal negligence

Invisible publicizing his willful ignorance again;
too ignorant to differentiate deficits from Debt, in a manner simillar to his inability to differentiate fiscal policies from monetary policies.
what else is new!!

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as of May 2024,

Just The Fact, Biden Has BeenThe Most Fiscally Responsible POTUS Since LBJ

Since 1922, every POTUS has increased the debt level, https://www.self.inc/info/us-debt-by-president/.
Warren G Harding, 1920 - 1922, was the last POTUS who had lowered the debt level during his tenure.

the current debt level under President Biden represents an increase of 16.67% since he toke office in 2020.

when MAGA Trump 1.0 was fired as POTUS, the debt level was 40.43% higher than when he was hired.
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an update as of Dec 2024,

Total debt change percentage in office per president
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• Biden has increased the debt by $7 Trillion, a ~~24.75% increase
• MAGA Trump 1.0 increased the debt by $8.2 Trillion, a 40.4% increase

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Hmmmmm.... Medicare, SSN, and Defense are consistently the biggest increase of spending.

But but but bidenomics

 

GAO link to report: https://www.gao.gov/assets/870/867564.pdf

https://thehill.com/opinion/4933701-biden-harris-deficit-spending/
At ~$1 trillion, Biden-Harris the most WORST wasteful administration ever

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) recently announced that the 2024 fiscal-year federal budget deficit — the amount the government spent over and above what it received in total revenue — was $1.8 trillion. That makes the Biden-Harris administration by far the biggest deficit spenders in modern history. Worse yet, Biden-Harris also wasted more money than any other administration, roughly $1 trillion, according to the Government Accountability Office (GAO).

The Biden-Harris four-year deficit total was $7.65 trillion — roughly 50 percent more than Donald Trump’s four-year deficit total of $5.56 trillion, and that figure included $3.13 trillion spent in FY2020, the first year of the pandemic. Had Trump’s fourth year deficit been in the general range of his first three years, his total deficit spending would have been about $3.25 trillion, less than half of Biden-Harris’s actual four-year deficit.

To be sure, some of the Biden-Harris deficit spending was also because of the pandemic, but then Biden used the pandemic as a catch-all excuse to ladle out money he was eager to spend anyway.

But with great spending should come increased efforts to minimize fraud and waste. And that’s where Biden-Harris really failed. Last April the GAO released its “improper payments” assessment, and Team Biden has the dubious distinction of wasting more taxpayer money than any previous administration.

“Improper payments” aren’t all fraud, though fraud makes up a significant portion. The GAO defines improper payments as “those [payments] that should not have been made or were made in the incorrect amount.” So, for example, if Medicare overpaid a hospital for its services, that would be an improper overpayment. But there is also a lot of outright fraud in health care and several other federal programs, areas where payments “should not have been made.”

The GAO says that in FY2023, Medicare and Medicaid together accounted for more than $100 billion in improper payments. Another $43.6 billion in improper payments went to Pandemic Unemployment Assistance, $21.9 billion was for the Earned Income Tax Credit, and $18.7 billion was for the Paycheck Protection loan forgiveness program.

But it’s when we compare the Biden and the Trump years that we get a sense of the magnitude of the improper payments. Trump’s four-year tally of improper payments (using the government’s fiscal year of Oct. 31 to Sept. 30) was $672.8 billion — which was unacceptably high but included the gusher of money Congress spent in the 2020 pandemic year. Biden’s, by contrast, is about $1 trillion. (Note: Since the GAO hasn’t updated its document to include FY2024, I used Biden’s 2023 number again for 2024).

Here are some of the recent health care fraud stories that could make you sick.

• “Scammers ripped off NY’s controversial Medicaid homecare program to the tune of $68M: feds,” the New York Post reports.
• Here’s one from September: “Scammers have taken more than $100 million meant for senior citizens’ Medicare bills, …” according to CBS News.
• From last August: “At a recent federal conference Operations Officer Mike Cohen, with the Office of the Inspector General (OIG) announced that urinary catheter scams have now cost Medicare over $4 billion in losses in 2024.”
• This is from the Department of Justice last year in Detroit: “Twenty-Three individuals charged in $61.5 million Medicare fraud schemes.”

And these are only some of the scams law enforcement caught. Had these scammers kept the dollar amounts down, they might have been able to continue flying under the radar.

The important point is whether the government overpaid some group or individual or it was the result of fraud or some other type of scam, either way the government has wasted the money — your money. While the government has been trying to claw back some of those funds by finding and prosecuting the crooks, most of it will be unrecoverable.

The fact is, the more taxpayer money the government hands out to individuals, organizations and businesses, the more fraud and improper payments there will be. And the government has never been very good at catching or stopping it. So the very first step in addressing the improper-payment problem is for the government to stop spending so much.

Second point, and related to the first, is that government handouts should be targeted and limited to those most in need. But instead, the Biden-Harris administration has vastly expanded the number of people and businesses getting taxpayer money. And as president, Kamala Harris wants to hand out even more.

Politicians like to claim they will save taxpayer money by reducing waste, fraud and abuse, but virtually no one ever does. And these days they don’t even try. Certainly, President Joe Biden and Kamala Harris haven’t tried, and the $1 trillion wasted in improper payments is all the proof we need.

 

I know this is not a serious thread, but it made me realize that what was needed for the perfect Afghanistan withdrawal was a Fox and Friends weekend host as SecDef.

 

Nobody reads this. Your propaganda is ridiculous