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Jabari Smith Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by austinite, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. pmac

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    Jabari's next contract will be based on potential.

    If he gets anything less than $20MM a year it will be because every front office has completely given up on him.

    In fact, all our young guys are considered high potential guys. I wouldn't expect to just pay everyone based on their current production. That's left for guys like Lu Dort that no one has lofty expectations of.
     
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  2. Hemingway

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    Espn is a joke. Banchero is 3rd. I wouldn't trade any of Jabari, Amen, or Tari straight up for his inefficient slow footed ass.
     
  3. vince

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    ESPN is all about stats, regardless if they contribute towards winning. Jabari is impacting winning and is near the top of WS of his draft class.

    The way Jabari is suddenly blocking shots with authority, the way he is pulling down rebounds with dominance, and how he is burgeoning into the next level…
     
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  4. roslolian

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    I agree. But the other dude was saying Jalen Green was never starter material his entire career.

    Jalen for all his faults are in ESPN's top 25 under 25. Only CF treats him like garbage.
     
  5. roslolian

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    Actually you are the blind guy. Jalen has been starting since his rookie year and 2 years under Ime Udoka. He is no 20 in the 25 under 25. He has been in the rookie 1st team, got invited to that All star skills challenge, been in the US Olympics select team and even got player of the week.

    https://www.espn.ph/nba/insider/sto...25-25-top-young-stars-ranked-future-potential

    The only proof he has never been a starting caliber level is your opinion, which as a rando internet poster isn't really all that good of a proof.

    Pts guy? Jalen has been extremely inefficient his entire career his pts are the worst part of his game. You don't even know the player you are criticizing.
     
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  6. astrosrule

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    So you think rookie season jalen green was a starting caliber player?
     
  7. RB713

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    If the Rockets offered Jabari and 7 1st rounders for Paolo, Magic would laugh. Jabari not even on the same caliber. Average player who makes a shot here and there every 6-7 games. Doesn’t do anything special.
     
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  8. vince

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    I for one would have been happy with any of Paolo, Jabari, or Chet.

    The issue about the Rockets drafting Paolo, is that he plays the same position as Sengun. Could the Rockets have made it work? Perhaps by running some twin tower lineups…

    However I’m perfect happy how the Rockets have Sengun and Jabari. As of recently, Jabari has some umph in his step - especially how he snares rebounds and viciously blocks shots.

    The Magic are building a core around Wagner, Paolo, and Suggs - so of course their rebuild is right on schedule too.
     
  9. roslolian

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    No but I'm sure Jalen proved to be a starting caliber player somewhere within his career unlike what you are saying.
     
  10. roslolian

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    Magic have been rebuilding since Dwight left so they're behind schedule by a decade or so.

    If you look at their draft history except for 2 yrs they had a lotto pick since 2013:
    https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ORL/draft.html

    Thats what makes the Stone rebuild top tier except for OKC no other rebuild has gone this well this quickly.

    Banchero isnt a center not sure what you are talking about.
     
  11. GTO

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    You couldn't be more wrong.
     
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    Efficiency isnt the best indicator of performance if you're the main guy. Look at Sengun.

    Banchero may not be that efficient but he impact winning by a large margin with his creation, rebounding and defense, his team won like 10 more games his rookie year just by adding him lol.

    Plus if you looked at his historical performance his efficiency has increased every year. This year before he got injured he was actually scoring at 59% TS which is pretty high.

    I'd trade anyone on the team except for Sengun for him.
     
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  13. Easy

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    You really have an irrational hate toward Jabari Smith Jr.
     
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    or an irrational obsession toward Banchero
     
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    Ask Magic fans when Suggs started to turn it around and how they felt about him in year 2.
     
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    It is great to see Bari come out of his early season funk. He will never be a star in this league but he is perfect for what we need when he is playing well. He will get tons of open looks with Alpi running the show. We need him to make most of those shots.
     
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    You think Jalen is currently a starting caliber SG? What about his play makes you think that? Serious question not trying to antagonize. Like....what do you think Jalen currently offers that merits him starting over either of Amen or Tari?
     
  18. vince

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    Which is why fans need to be patient with developing talent. It is one thing if it is the coaches who realize a lack of work ethics, attitude problems, or that player isn’t going to catch up to the league. But fans on the fan boards make up their mind about players and are about ready to make them enemy #1. Especially when coaches are still raving about a players potential.

    Sure coaches are apt to fall in favor of some players, but at the end of the day if players don’t develop, it’s the coaches and management’s jobs that are on the line. As a fan we don’t have any investment financially on the team. We can choose to spend or not spend our money to go to a game, to buy merchandise, pay for subscriptions - but that’s not investment.

    The Magic kept developing Suggs and look where he is now. He looks every but a legit NBA player, the guy has made a monumental leap in year 3 and he’s maintaining his form this year. But many fans were already calling him a bust in Orlando and away.

    Guys like Reed Shepherd, Cam Whitmore, are guys that obviously aren’t up to speed with the NBA. However, Reed has at least earned his coaches confidence for 8-10 minutes a game - which bodes well for him. Whitmore on the other hand is set in his ways and may not have the ability to play Ime style basketball.
     
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    Even if we had to improve his 3PT% and defense by 1% every summer for 3 more years, he's going to be an exceptional PF in the NBA. Contenders will love to have a guy who doesn't require the ball much to do damage and be switchable on defense at the 4.
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    While Jabari may not be the typical #3 Pick
    I think he is definitely doing good.
    He impacting the game when his shot is not falling
    I still think of him as a Robert Horry Type

    May not be #3 pick owrthy
    May not be someone to be the center of your future
    but
    Still can be a D*mn good Role player on a Championship Team

    Rocket RIver
     
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