Texans have the same record as the Ravens, a supposed Super Bowl team. The Ravens lost to the Raiders at home and the Browns. Things are never as bad as it may seem.
So I was waiting to see this vicious hit after all the pearl clutching. Meh it didn’t seem that vicious to me.
I feel like I'm being gaslit in that I didn't think the hit on Lawrence was all that egregious. Aziz was leading with his forearm and aiming low. Unfortunate Lawrence dropped down at that moment.
Now you can say the NFL didn’t have film on him (and now they do, thus the regression, struggles, slump, whatever you want to call it) but 1. Was everything perfect last year? •A rushing attack that was 22nd(yds) with *checks notes* Devin Singletary and Dameon Pierce •Receiver room led by Nico Collins (3 career TD, never surpassed 500 yards in season), rookie Tank Dell, Dalton Schultz, Noah Brown, Robert Woods •OL was LT Laremy Tunsil — LG Tytus Howard — C Michael Deiter — RG Shaq Mason — RT George Fant (along with Josh Jones, Jarrett Patterson, Juice Scruggs, Kendrick Green & Charlie Heck) Hardly perfect or surrounded with all-pros. 2. Is he a franchise QB or just Kirk Cousins? I mean, his comp coming out were mostly Jared Goff and Dak Prescott. Fine QBs but no one is confusing them for elite, top 5-10 guys. (Although some might rank them there.) (Goff I think spent a year with Jeff Fisher before wiz kid Sean McVay took over and obviously a great situation in Detroit.)
Come on, seriously? Burrows has 30 touchdowns, and only 5 interceptions this year. What more can you ask from a QB? CJ has half as many touchdowns and almost twice as many interceptions.
I mean, it was an illegal hit. But because Lawrence got injured on the play and because there was a scrum, it was going to get overblown. If Lawrence hadn't hit his head and if Jax just let the refs do their job, this wouldn't be as big a deal. Late hits on QB's after they start to slide is a thing that happens. They're just appropriately penalized and the game moves on. But yeah, even posters on here saying that that's as bad as it gets? That's hyperbolic.
Fair enough, the announcers were acting like Lawrence got murdered on the field afterwards. Told heart wrenching stories of his trials and tribulations of coming back from a shoulder injury, and then to have mean ole Aziz take him out like that. It was nauseating. But, it was still a boneheaded play, and leading with the forearm kind made it worse, bc he continued through the play and drove him into the turf, he didn't let up at all, and that's why he got ejected.
Understood but you've gotta stop looking at stats as the end all be for all QBs. CJs stats are worse than his overall play, but he's been underperforming lately, no doubt about that.
CJ has sucked this season i haven't said otherwise, but look at burrow when he doesn't have his 2 star WR, he's always mediocre and they lose most of their games. He's fantastic when he has both guys though
I feel like CJ does need a lot to go right to be a good QB. He's clearly also having a sophomore slump and that's made him look not so great either. I'm going to wait until year 3 to make a boom or bust prediction on him. Right now, not impressed.
I still think Stroud's best comparison is a hybrid of a Hebert and a Burrow. How he develops will foretell whether he becomes a slightly lesser version of Herbert or a better Burrow. But I think people were definitely too quick to try and write the story. And that's not a knock on CJ. It's a statement on how we rush to judge NFL players.
Bryce Young has outplayed stroud over the last couple of games… I don’t think people are ready to have uncomfortable discussion regarding stroud.
Canales is actually really good with qbs but it’s still the same guy who benched young early in the year
Stunned reading some of the denial about the egregiousness of this hit. 1) What on earth is the point of Al-Shaair leading his forearm aside from outright intent to drive Trevor Lawrence's head into the ground ? 1A) TL is clearly slowing down as he approaches Al-Shaair and it's obvious Al-Shaair sees this and accelerates anyway. 2) What part of conventional tackling entails simply using your forearm to drive someone's body into the ground ? 2A) His forearm had a freaking metal brace on it. It was used as a weapon. 3) This is the same guy who punched a Bears player for absolutely no reason just a few weeks ago, who was fined last week for a hit and who put Brady in a mini-chokehold last year. Same guy who after the ridiculous "hit" today tossed his helmet into the ground to try to start another fight with a Jags player, after he had already been ejected and coached by Ryans to chillout. He clearly has major temper issues as this the exact pattern he used in the Bears embarassment. Make a dirty hit, then go after someone on the other team who dares to defend his teammate. 4) Feedback around the league from former players has been rather unanimous that it was a very dirty hit, completely unnecessary and inappropriatte for the game. That feedback includes feedback from Demeco Ryans who said "that's not how we coach people to play football". See Howie Long, Michael Strahan, Terry Bradshaw, Ryan Clark, etc. their opinions were not weakly held - they had strong conviction. Besides a severely biased Texans fan, what objective fan/coach/player sees this play as anything but egregrious and embarassing. Sometimes it's ok to call a spade a spade. Don't die on this hill. It's a hill without any substance behind it, besides grasping at invisible straws. The hit was an embarassment. Hitting someone like that who is giving themselves up is cowardly and disgraceful.
He needs to be cut as soon as he gets off the plane.... Actually, should be cut as soon as he gets on the plane... That was just idiotic... T_Man
You have a linebacker making an egregious dirty play… You lose at home to a 2 win team… You BARELY escape by 3 points vs another 2 win team… Combine the rest with CJ’s sophomore slump, the offensive line, lack of discipline across the board, and Slowik’s Tom foolery… You get a team that is completely dysfunctional. I think deep down somewhere this is a great team. Unfortunately as it stands now, we’re not scaring anybody. In fact, whoever we face in the playoffs will be drooling to face us.
This is how one properly critiques. And I'm with you until the last line. Let them drool. I'll take my chances with a Chargers team that doesn't have a replacement for Dobbins.
