Ant would be well worth Jalen and all our picks. Unless Ant demands out, no way the Wolves are going to trade him.
I have zero interest in butler but saying brooks is better than him is beyond ludicrous. Jalen is currently a negative asset, maybe you could find a sucker but historically the high draft pick busts have been traded for 2nd rounders and they didn’t have a 20% of the cap price tag.
Sure, the Rockets have a yawing gap which is someone with the confidence/ability to take big shots late in games and their HC offense turns into a disaster, this is probably Jimmy Butler's signature skill. Jalen Green is not providing output commensurate with his contract and is going to impinge on the ability to keep better players like Thompson
Are you saying that Jalen is worth more than Butler, so Miami would have to add picks? If so, count me in. If you are saying that Jalen is worth more then Butler, so we would have to add picks, then... I don't really follow. But it reiterates my point that giving up players to acquire Butler is not the roadblock; we have an abundance of players to trade. It's giving up picks for an old player where people like myself pump the brakes. And I would be interested to see any stat/metric that shows Dillon to be a better player than Butler.
I'd have to consider Brooks and Jalen for Butler, in large part to get off the potential third year in Jalen's deal. That trade probably makes us worse, though.
I think Butler is worth less to most teams than Jalen. Jimmy is a has been that can't stay on the court and costs a bunch of money. We can get at least one frp for Jalen, that is worth way more to me than Jimmy Butler that does not fit our team or timeline. One on one stat comparisons are useless without the context of fit. Dillon rarely is injured, Jimmy is 35 years and shoots 29% from three. He does not fit this team. We have no use for a 35 year old oft-injured SF that can't shoot 3's. The defensive difference between Jimmy at 35 and Dillon or Jalen is not enough to give up draft assets for him. Jimmy makes 50m a year. It's just a dumb idea.
I don’t think Jalen is fetching a FRP. If anything it probably takes a FRP (probably unprotected) to move him. His deal is pretty bad. If he hadn’t been extended and was going to be an RFA at the end of the season I could see him fetching a FRP.
No one.. give up no one. There is no player in NBA right now l can trade our players.. I have one of future's probably top 2 or 3 center in Sengun, top defenders in Amen and Eason, inconsistent but high ceiling Jalen, Jabari and all are young. Why do l give up on them for ego centric, old, injuryprone players? Stoopid...
Would be amazing but I don't see how we can get Ant without trading Tari or Amen. Unless we decide we are gonna take Rudy Gobert contract...
You are over stating how bad a contract he has. If he was tradeable right now we could get easily get one or more future frp's for him. The poison pill will prevent that until the off-season. It's just like all the hand wringing on the Brooks and FVV's contracts. Too many fans are basing their understanding of values based on years ago.
The new apron rules are going to fundamentally change how title teams are built. I feel like they already have (why do you think the TWolves suck all of a sudden). The Rockets are probably one of the most enviable teams in the league. They haven't committed 50+ to anyone. They have a star making 38m a year. They have another budding star waiting in the wings. And they can easily extend both Jabari and Tari who they can still develop without breaking the bank. Basically if we play our cards right and get the kids to buy in, we can grow this core and continue to beat teams how Nick Nurse said we do. Through sheer volume of talent. Do we have a Top 10 player in the league? No. But we'll have the most Top 100 players in the league and as long as we have one guy that can score in the clutch, we'll be fine.
I said Fred’s contract was great at the time. I thought 3/45 would’ve been a more reasonable contract for Brooks but I was fine with it as a slight overpay. Jalen’s deal is bad right now. The third year player option is the main issue. If it was 2/1 with a team option or just two years it would be ok. Tying up that much of the cap on a guy with a 52% TS who doesn’t excel at anything is not anything a team is looking to give up assets for, especially when he can opt out early if the gamble pays off.
Giving up Amen in any trade defeats the purpose of trading for a star. It is just a sway of stars. The only way we get Ant is that he demands a trade and we are on his short list. Jalen and either Cam or Sheppard and 4-5 frps would be one of the best offers in the league and would make this team an instant contender.
I don't disagree. I want Ant but Minnesota is gonna want amen or tari. Otherwise plenty of teams can beat our offer. Cuz most clutch fans doesn't want to believe it but Jalen is a negative asset in any trade. Minnesota doesn't want his 100 million dollars..
