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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. daywalker02

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    It would be the norm if most of the refs are giving him the calls, or at least a lot of them.

    Then weaponize it.

    That is not guaranteed at all, at least consistently.

     
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    That's honestly a better idea than having him take 9 3PA per game and banking on whether that will work every night. There are these quarters when our offense gets sleepy, those would be especially good times to use Green and 4 shooters. Could use Amen at the 5 as we did last season during the win-streak.
     
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    Right, but the point is how he is going about making shots. Jacking up threes all game is not efficient for him. Him focusing on being intentional about the things I mentioned I believe will open up the three more for him and get him more in a rhythm to knock them down. The games i’ve seen where he struggles is where he settles and puts very little pressure on the defense by not attacking the paint.

    But i get you, we can simplify the game for every NBA players and say just hit shots. But we also know if it was that easy everyone would be doing it.
     
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  4. MystikArkitect

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    Sixers are 3-14 and are starting a rookie alongside 6-1 Maxey and scrubs. I wouldn't put too much stock in Jalen suddenly getting to the FT line against undisciplined defenders on a terrible team with an over the hill Drummond manning the middle.

    Like others have said ad nauseum, Jalen exhibits "great 6th man" traits. He's essentially a 6th man anyway. He starts as a formality but Ime still essentially treats him like you would any high wire bench player.
     
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  5. Stephen_A

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    what? Lol
     
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    Jalen really would be better suited as a 6th man and can make a long NBA career out of it.

    Still, as a Rockets fan, even if it's less than 1% probability... I would hope that somehow this game allows him to get his confidence and rhythm back and that he remains mostly consistent throughout the season... would do wonders for the team.
     
  7. Stephen_A

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    Again fans like you love to use “scrubs” loosely and believe in the myth that there’s a contingent of players that are simply bodies on the court nothing more and that there’s this large magical gap between players or that it’s easy to score in the NBA.

    Green was guarded by Maxey who has been a very good defender past couple seasons. On the switch Oubre who has been a tough defender his whole career was guarding him. He also was guarded by Yabusele on switches who is another tough guy and he took it to Drummond in the paint a few times. The sixers are better than their record indicates and that starting lineup is still a very good lineup.

    You calling them “scrubs” devalues this great win. If you watched the game you would see how competitive that team was just as any team in the league and just like we were in the Silas years when we gave “good” teams a run for their money. Any team can win on any given night. The gap between is small between professional players and basketball is a team game. That sixer team we played was well coached and had a solid starting lineup including a rookie who has wreaked havoc offensively in the league.
     
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    It’s half of the game, but a much more team-oriented half. One player can take over on offense and be the difference maker on literally every possession - a defensive player cannot do the same because the ball swings too quickly. A center can come closest by shutting down the paint, but a guard can only shut down at most a third of the perimeter and one good perimeter player.

    It’s the same in football. An MVP cornerback is incredibly valuable, but never will be as valuable as a top QB. You can avoid a good defender being involved in the play - you cannot avoid a good offensive creator.

    Regardless, Jalen is a now a very capable defender and if he combines that with steady dose of drives, only open 3s (no step backs unless clock expiring) and only middies inside 15 feet, he can definitely be all NBA caliber.
    and that’s primarily a choice/attitude adjustment, not a skill one. Which is why I still haven’t lost hope, even before last night.
     
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    What premise do you disagree with? Jalen's 3 point percentage?
     
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    Legler says it is instincts when NOT to....

     
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    They’re 27th on offense and 19th on defense, so no they are not a good team. They are built around one MVP level guy, and he’s gone. Mccain is good for a rookie but he’s HORRIBLE on defense. Maxey is ok on defense but he’s also a tiny guard so very limited. Drummond is awful obviously. This version of philly is what, a 28-54ish level team?
     
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    Fine but those things can be learned and he will continue to get better no matter what. Whether he is on our roster or not, he will be a better player in five years than he is today.
     
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    That wasn’t the point of my post.

    My response was to a fan who called the sixers “scrubs” to which I explained why that’s a fallacy especially when the individual defenders were solid defenders historically. I also explained the competitive nature of professional sports with teams winning any given night with no easy victories. Also addressed the mythical light year gap fans tend to believe.

    The logic of the argument also fails since it’s premise is that a high level performance against a “lesser” team is not a significant or substantial accomplishment. This would mean every single point Sengun scores against what’s perceived to be a lesser team means nothing or less than it would against the few arbitrary teams the fan thinks is “good”. This would mean Hakeem’s triple double 10 block against the “lowly” Mavericks meant nothing.
     
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    I think you greatly underestimate the gap between a good and bad team. Playing denver with jokic and without is a massive difference, same for philly and embiid (usual embiid not the crap this season). The defenders aren’t that solid though, the pg and center are horrid, sg is super tiny. I disagree with people who say it doesn’t mean anything though, of course it does. It’s awesome that he finally had a good game after being so atrocious for 15 games or whatever. It will take a lot for me to buy back into jalen at this point, i’ve been fooled too many times but let’s hope!
     
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    that was not the premise of the discussion. The premise the fan used was the sixers players were “scrubs”. Your argument between good and bad teams is a separate discussion. Whatever the sixers are they played well last night and should have won in my opinion.
     
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    Who’s chris gorman?
     
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    Don't know, but I know who Tim Legler is.
     
  18. Stephen_A

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    who’s Tim Legler?
     
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    Collin Sexton is having a hot start shooting and has been a lot more efficient, but I don't think it's fair to say he's a better overall player this year.

    Green
    VORP: 0.3
    BPM: -0.3
    WS: 1.1

    Sexton
    VORP: 0.1
    BPM: -1.3
    WS: 0.8

    It's early but advanced stats favor Green rn.
     
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  20. MystikArkitect

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    The Sixers players *are* scrubs. You think they're 3-14 because they're good? Maxey isn't a good defender. He tries but he's not. Jalen is a better defender than Maxey.

    It's fine man. We won. Jalen played well (finally). Let's see if he reverts back this Sunday when we play the *checks notes* best defensive team in the league.
     
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