we are agreed he’s a bust, which is why it’s so crazy we gave him a near-max extension and why I want to move off him so badly. And I can’t help but seriously question the judgement of our GM.
Sunk cost fallacy. The bad extension came in part because of the sunk cost of drafting him second. He needs to get benched for Amen and see if he can excel in the Clarkson/Crawford role and just be really overpaid. If he's a productive, yet overpaid, role player in the offseason before the third year of his extension Stone won't have to attach that much for someone to take on that third year. Giving him minutes at the expense of wins and development of other players to possibly make it less difficult to trade him this summer is silly. It sucks we'll probably have to talk about this crappy deal for 3 years but that's the hand Stone played. Jalen will also rope a dope most of us in with another hot streak at points where we don't feel as bad about it.
Jalen Green's contract will become easily movable once the new media deals takes in place for the 2025-26 season...we just need to figure out which assets we want to hang on to
@DaDakota Sam Vecinie just brought up the hypothetical Jalen + fillers trade for Lavine. He said he did not know if it would be the right move for the Rockets, but that Lavine is the far superior player. When the national guys like Sam start to value Jalen at this level, you know the mythical Jalen potential is a thing of the past. I still think it's better to wait for a trade in the offseason when there will be more trade options due to the poison pill status not being in-play; however, anyone expecting a positive return from a Jalen swap are out of touch with the current reality. Feel vindicated, DD?
I would say that about any player who has the worst TS% in the league. I wish it were only 5 games we were talking about. Jalen has been mostly struggling for years at this point.
He's actually 182nd outa 199 in TS% so he's not last, pods on the warriors is last and KPJ is 2nd to last. What he's last in (485th outa 485) is TS added. The rockets actually have 3 of the bottom 20 with sengun, fvv, and jalen. For fun, last season Jalen was 570th outa 572 in TS added (ahead of poole and scoot), season before he was actually 532nd outa 539
If you are indeed serious, you are making yourself look more and more foolish by the day. Just stop dude.
Nah. Going back over 3 years. The perceptions and attitudes towards these 2 players are vastly different from you and people like you. Hate and bias. I double down on this.
Again matter of perception and judgement. Especially with no real analysis. And since these are simply judgements they don’t hold much weight and can’t be trusted.
Rockets are 13-6 DESPITE Jalen Green. He is a net negative player (once again) and so again, it's DESPITE him that the Rockets are 13-6. I know I'm a homer fan, but we've been flat out amazing. What I mean by net negative, we are a better team when he DOESN'T PLAY than when he DOES PLAY. I'm not talking about one game here, one game there. I'm talking about over the course of a season, on average. This is an undeniable fact both statistically AND eye test wise. We need to keep building him up (spent the last three years, might as well) and find some kind of value for him, a piece that fits with the rest of the roster. If we succeed there, sky's the limit for this team
Who is this 'you' you are speaking of? Who am I? I wasn't even in this forum until this year. You are fighting windmills at this point my guy. I asked you this before and you didn't answer it then, so I'll ask it again - what would satisfy you? What kind of environment are you envisioning that'd be more advantageous to JG? What more could the team have given him? What other rookie has gotten as many chances and as much time as JG did? Then think about this: Could there be any other reason that the attitudes are different towards those two players? Is it possible that slumps look like the norm for one whereas exception for the other? Is it possible that one has shown to have good fundamentals and has shown consistent, impressive improvement over the years while the other has mostly stalled? Or you can underanalyze, like you said, and like you always seem to do when it serves you, but you are quick to throw a fit about it when it doesn't.
