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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Aruba77

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    honestly if we didn’t have a few amazing SF’s already I’d be willing to try a JG experiment there. But he’s proven to be what I thought he was going back to last year, a streaky inefficient scorer who doesn’t offer much else. I want him off the team. I think his money sets a terrible precedent for our other prospects. And I really resent how Stone rewards his pet players with money they don’t deserve (like KPJ). It’s not a good look.
     
  2. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I mean, what difference would it make? You don't get to choose who guards you so he'll be guarded by the same players. The SG will have to be a defense-only guy which we already have with 6'5 Brooks.

    It's not a position issue, if we want more out of him we need to control his shot selection or surround him with better shooters.
     
  3. Hemingway

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    Jalen is supposed to be one of those shooters. That is the problem. Dillon is not a SG and shouldn't even be starting at SF. It is very simple Jalen either needs to become a better shooter (everywhere not just from 3) or he needs his minutes reduced or gone from this team. He isn't going anywhere this season so folks need to get that notion out of the their head. Ime could be a better offensive coach, but the fact is that Jalen is getting plenty of open looks. It is a much better idea to see if he can get his act together from the bench if he continues his putrid offensive play. Unless we go on a bad losing streak, I would give him until mid-season to turn it around as a starter.
     
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  4. Aruba77

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    bro, you can keep advocating catering to Jalen, but the vast majority of fans are tired of that. Jalen is the problem, not the coaching, not the other players on the team, it’s Jalen. No guard prospect worth a damn doesnt improve their shooting 4 seasons into their career. Jalen has to play much better or he should ride the pine until we trade him. It’s just that simple.
     
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    4 years in the NBA, 5 years as a professional working only on his game.

    DD
     
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    HE needs to control HIS shot selection and be a BETTER shooter
     
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    why would we run our offense based on a mediocre ball handler with no bag or court vision? he cant even finish at the rim. he either fits or he doesnt. i defended jalen for a long time based on hope, but its over. he just sucks at basketball, period.
     
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    100% this.

    It's not even speculation, when Jalen has fluke hot shooting games, he's a completely different player. When he can't shoot, he honestly doesn't belong on a basketball court because when he can't shoot, he can't score efficiently and he lacks the skillset to positively impact the game in any other way.
     
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    He can't shoot 3's, he isn't a positive defender, he's not someone who creates for his teammates, and he's quite literally the worst high volume ISO guy in the league.....KPJ, who is having an abomination of a season is nearly 3 times better at ISO than him.

    He can't play on ball, he can't play off ball.....he straight up can't play.

    We're well past the time where there's no excuse in defending this guy anymore.
     
  10. CXbby

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    Yes he’s a bad shooter, but that’s only half the issue. Amen is even worse shooter but he attacks the basket. What no one is talking about is how Jalen cannot consistently get by…anyone. When you combine that with poor shooting and poor court vision, you get the poopoo platter that it currently is. Of course this was obvious for four years now but you still had people trying to gaslight us about him being the only real core piece.
     
  11. Mathloom

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    I don't know where people came up with this notion. He has never been a shooter nor flashed that potential. He has always been a first step and transition guy. That's why he's scoring much more efficiently than Sengun less than 5 feet from the basket. That's why he does well when the paint is not packed.

    It's like saying Ja Morant is supposed to be one of those shooters because PG's tend to be able to shoot. Actually, better example: it's like having your wing Amen Thompson take 3's all day and tell him to stay out of the crowded paint. Ridiculous idea. You cater to the guy who's points your need.

    Throughout all of NBA history, if you have a scorer who's not a great shooter, you surround him with shooter. For God's sake guys you can't possibly convince us that Jalen Green should be taking as many 3's as Damian Lillard right now. That's absurd.
     
  12. CXbby

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    Ja Morant played for years with that elite floor spacer named Steven Adams as his center. What in the hell are you talking about.
     
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    can't penetrate in traffic shoots 10 threes a game

    Nah Morant
     
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    Outside of uncontested dunks, there's nothing Jalen can do particularly well.

    We don't want him shooting, because he's terrible, we don't want him in ISO, because he's terrible, at some point, doesn't he have to actually be good at something for you to make this kind of post?

    Just about every player in the league is good at uncontested dunks....that's not really a plan.
     
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    Chapter 9 - the Trade.

    :)

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    I've heard it all mid season last season guys. We're what 12-4 against an easy schedule right now with Tari and Sengun? We went on the longest winning streak in the NBA (11 wins in a row) against an easy schedule too with just Jalen leading the scoring. Udoka flat out said the team needs that. Udoka is the one starting him, telling him to take a ton of 3's and stay out of the crowded paint. What magic excuse have you made this time for that?
    Especially @Aruba77 who last week mistakenly let out that it doesn't make sense Green could fool Udoka into this starting role this long lol.

    There's no one else on this roster who's going to be able to manage that. Amen has not shown he can carry in scoring. Nor has Whitmore. Sheppard is still a rookie. I want my team to win more games. Sorry I'm not throwing my hands up in the air and saying there's nothing that can help when we've seen otherwise.

    Btw - Jalen is 3rd highest FG% at 66% (less than 5 feet from the basket) behind only Amen (who has fewer attempts at 69%) and Tari (69%). Sengun has highest attempts and a lower FG% than all of them in that range.
     
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    It just means that Jalen is not suited for this team. If he can't become a decent shooter all his other skills are not good enough to make up for it. It would be crazy to trade Sengun to make space for a SG that can't shoot, especially when you have another slashing guard that actually finishes at the rim and is a better passer.

    Ja Morant is a bad example since he is a great finisher and ball handler, Jalen is not. Saying you need to surround your most inefficient player with shooters which will cost us other young players makes no sense. At least make him prove he is all world getting to the hoop by playing him from the bench with Tari (or Brooks) and Sheppard and no Sengun before you start trying to tailor the offense around him.
     
  18. sanedolt

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    I can see JG’s play very suitable for an all-star game, not necessarily the dunk contest though.
     
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    I wish you were wrong but you nailed it. Jalen is a poor fit for this team…and even if his biggest supporters are correct, damn you have to move a lot of **** around to make sure things are just right for him. ****ing Ime Udoka is holding him back…so was his former coach..so is Sengun….so is being BuRiEd In ThE cOrNeR (which isn’t happening anyway…) It’s enough already, man. This team has an identity and they’re winning with it…if you don’t fit, that’s on you. Sink or swim. You’re being paid to do this… you’re a professional
     
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