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The James Harden LA Clippers Thread

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by HoustonTexas, Oct 31, 2023.

  1. daywalker02

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    Bronny says hi ....

     
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  2. roslolian

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    He is the regular season king. All he is really good for cuz in the playoffs his constant partying and drinking and womanizing drops his stamina and he starts playing like a scrub.
     
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  4. Rocket River

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    Yes Sir.
    I'd much rather being doing this . . .. than what you were doing

    Rocket River
    you was all in the public with it and everything. . . have you no shame
     
  5. StroudAndYorDaddy

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    think the wins include the playoffs too, I could be wrong tho
     
  6. roslolian

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    He only reached the Finals 1 year his entire career so even if playoffs are included regular season wins are the reason he is there. In the regular season James Harden has been super durable and an iron man very similar to Lebron.

    IMO if he didn't party so much and got so many bad habits during his prime he would actually have had multiple rings by now and fighting with Kobe and Wade for 2nd place in the SG rankings. He wasted his potential very similar to Tmac.
     
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    Making the finals is out of hardens control. It sounds like I’m making excuses, but the numbers when Scott foster is the ref on the court when James is playing is and should be categorized as intentional sabotage(that’s the best way I can explain it), because I’m sure Morey or whoever saw the win/loss record when foster refs hardens playoff games and they still allow him to do it. So all you can do is “shrug”, now why would the league not want harden to make a finals as a “lead guy”.. beats me but the numbers are what they are
     
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  8. Rocket River

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    The Harden / CP3 year was egregious
    Honestly the amount of terrible calls in those loses were unreal
    But
    The NBA was riding the "DYNASTY" narrative

    I accepted that Narrative was more important than competition in the NBA
    so I am no longer as invested as I was

    Rocket River
     
  9. StroudAndYorDaddy

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    Last hardens i had were the vol. 1, and vol. 3, looks like harden has supplanted curry for the most popular shoe among active nba guards. But ant edwards who is also with adidas is closing in fast. I hope adidas takes down the nike monopoly that has poisoned the nba

     
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  10. astrosrule

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    Scrub seems a bit strong. If you look at ws/48 in just playoffs, he's ahead of guys like manu, stockton, kobe, wade, garnett, kyrie, luka, pippen, etc.
     
  11. roslolian

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    I mean refs or no refs losing in 2019 was no excuse. They were healthy and GSW were missing almost half their team. Even KD and Curry were playing injured. 2019 showed there wasnt any rivalry or 2018 wasnt robbed cuz even with half their team gone GSW still beat them.
     
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  12. roslolian

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    Scrub in relative terms of other superstars.

    Also majority of those guys you mentioned would have won in 2019.
     
  13. astrosrule

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    I think a few of the guys on that list are superstars no? And none of them were coming close to beating the kd warriors that’s stupid
     
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    It's not his fault KD decided to b*{^} out and go join the warriors. Michael Jordan wouldn't have beat that team..

    That was the most unbeatable team in nba history. Those two scorers on the same team is a cheat code.
     
  15. roslolian

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    2019 they were very beatable with half their team injured.
     
  16. astrosrule

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    sure in the finals, but the rockets were in the west that season so we didn't play the injured version Toronto played
     
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    the only team harden had in houston that was capable of making the finals, let alone winning it was the 2018 team which is why scott foster was assigned to ref game 1 and game 7 of that series.. the league knew the rockets that year with all things being equal could have beat the warriors which is why i say even if cp3 doesnt get hurt the rockets still lose because of scott foster being out there in that game 7.. On the other hand regarding the 2019 rockets, they were not the same team as the year prior, people tend to forget how that team started the year.. and it took harden going supernova to win 53 games.. that was harden basically scoring the rockets out of a lottery season. Chris Paul, Capela, and Gordon were NOT the same players from the prior season, plus ariza and mbah moute were no longer on the roster and were replaced with carmelo and james ennis.. 2019 in hindsight was not close to the 42-3 cp3/harden/capela rockets of 2018
     
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    Ya lebron still at his peak never had a remotely competitive series with those warriors teams. He went 1-8 against them while harden took them to 7 games in 2018
     
  19. roslolian

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    What are you talking about Iggy gone, Cousins gone. Looney gone. I remember Klay got injured during the series too. KD had a calf strain and Curry was playing with a dislocated finger.

    All those happened in GSW/Rox series.
     
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    So you are saying Ariza and Mbah Amoute are equal to Cousins, Looney, Iggy. Klay and injured KD and Curry? Since when were Ariza and Amoute all NBA players and superstars? Maybe we should have paid Ariza the max instead of Harden if he turns the team from amazing to scrub team. Curry was literally playing with a dislocated finger he still beat the Rockets.

    If Harden was really that good as the only healthy superstar in the series he should have dominated and closed GSW out and he didnt. Why Curry with a dislocated finger and KD with a calf strain better than him? Excuses. Harden had the chance to fix the narrative against him and he failed. End of story.
     
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