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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Stephen_A

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    You get FVV off the ball in the half court set. FVV or Amen can bring the ball up and set the half court but its either give to Green or Sengun to set up an action. Very simple.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Then you lose because Jalen turns it over too much or makes bad decisions....sorry, he just isn't that good.

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  3. harold bingo

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    If you're asking my personal opinion, I don't think you can. I think this is who he's always going to be. I don't think there's any trick or key to unlocking superstar Jalen Green.
     
  4. Stephen_A

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    I explained in depth in above poste of how he’s used. The actions go nowhere. How many PNR did he run last game or the game before? As I said after the 6th game the sets are simple DHO Sengun high post with a dribble drive option, high screen and roll, or sengun mid post. The Rockets run variations of these 3 basic sets. Jalen gets the ball off either a DHO or on the wing with no where to go with no movement on offense. The DHO play is useless as the bigs slide over. Doesn’t cause any defensive shifting. Same with the wing iso. Does nothing when the paint is clogged with a big. Guards need picks drive. They ran several variations of picks in the first few games like staggered screens and double drags etc for green but went away from it. This is what numbers don’t tell you. We are back to our offense exactly one year ago. I do still put the responsibility on Green to adapt and make shots but he isn’t set up for success.
     
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    He has no strengths. He can't shoot from anywhere on the court with efficiency, except the FT line but doesn't draw fouls. He has poor ball skills nearly identical AST%/TOV%, and he is physically weak. The Rockets would be much better offensive team overall, if you replaced Green with a guy that could consistently shoot 36%+ from BTA, because the spacing would be much better.
     
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  6. Stephen_A

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    Thats what the coaches need to figure out. In my opinion he can’t play with Sengun. It’s not working and I don’t think there’s coincidence where one plays well the other isn’t.

    But perhaps there is a medium. It’s just the coaches don’t let the game feature these 2 at once consistently enough.
     
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  7. Stephen_A

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    He is avg 2.4 TO per game consistent with his career numbers. Meanwhile Booker avg 4 in year 4 and Rocket fan favorite Edwards avg 3. What does too much mean to you?
     
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    Im going to tell you why you take a chance; he's shown he can score, he's shown he can play defense, he's shown he can rebound and playmake. His one and only major problem is CONSISTENCY.

    If he was 25yrs old, I would say cut your ties and trade but because he has shown those qualities at such a young age, you have to see it through.
     
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  9. Stephen_A

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    Coaching needs to set him up for success. Luka, kyrie, SGA, Brunson all need the ball and they all need screens and an unclogged paint to score.
     
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    Okay, I guess we're saying similar things here. I thought you were saying he wasn't getting opportunity. He's getting a lot of opportunity, I think you agree here(?), but you just don't like the opportunities he's being given. That's fair. But he is getting lots of touches, lots of opportunities, and lots of pnr, and lots of chances to score. It just hasn't been productive.
     
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    Yes he’s getting opportunities but the sets aren’t right. Its baffling to me and i think Udoka likes him as an option for the corner 3, back door, or cutting from the wing when Sengun is in the high post. But again it doesn’t use his strengths as a dribble drive guy playmaker which we saw him do time and time again since Silas gave him the reigns in a game against philly 3 years ago.
     
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    4 years later, the usual suspects are still making excuses for why Jalen Green STILL sucks at basketball.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    it means you don’t understand efficiency and usage.

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    Oh ok i understand. You made an assumption and magically predicted that his TO’s will be “too many” if given the ball as a main playmaker without citing much evidence.
     
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    Yall stay trying to force him to be the #1 guy and he's just not built that way. He's never gonna be the #1 guy
     
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    Looking at his shot chart, you can see that Jalen is not taking a lot of corner 3’s. In fact he takes far less from the corners than any other spot. I’m not understanding the argument that Udoka is setting him up for corner 3’s.

    He’s taken 306 three pointers this year…only 15 of those have been in the corners. What am I missing?

    https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jalen-green-shot-chart
     
  17. Stephen_A

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    I was specifically talking about the sets the team runs. Green is in the corner away from the action in most sets which is usually a PNR or Sengun drive or post. I specifically mentioned that udoka may put him there possibly to be an option for the corner 3 or backdoor. Option. I never said anything about him shooting a lot from that area. The team overall doesn’t shoot many corner 3s. Whatever the case he is stashed in the corner on most sets
     
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    He just shoots so much i would assume he’d have more than 15 attempts from there all season if the entire set is about putting the guy who takes the most shots on the team in that spot. And yet that’s where about only 5 percent of his shots are coming from.
     
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    So essentially you want the worst player in the starting lineup to completely dominate the ball every time down the court.... despite the fact that he already has the highest usage on the team and is just awful.

    Never change Jalen apologist
     
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  20. Stephen_A

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    The pass doesn’t go there often but he is in that spot on these sets. You would have to get the ball to shoot. Often the ball doesn’t find him in the corner. The team overall does not shoot many corner threes. That’s why I think the decision to put him in that spot is baffling. Do you have an explanation for why he is put here? Have you seen the games this year?
     

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