If we just sent them expiring money sure, but zach is way better than jalen and his contract is a year shorter. You’re not getting zach and a pick for jalen, that’s lunacy
Voter fatigue is real, otherwise I'd agree Edit: Well, and I'd be surprised if he doesn't have one or multiple seasons where he misses a majority of the games due to injury.
a career 33% 3 point shooter that is currently shooting 30.7% having a 49% 3 point attempt rate on the season is some nasty work his midrange remains extremely poor, and he doesn’t want to drive to the rim
Someone will respond to say he can’t drive to the rim cause the paint is clogged. And someone else will reply to say Jalen’s inability to shoot is a huge reason why the paint is clogged. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
17 shots and 8 threes per game, from a guy who who has never even managed a league average TS%. It's not exactly a recipe for a good offense
Even with the way Lavine is playing, he would not garner any positive value back in a trade, and in many trade scenarios additional value, such as pick(s) would have to be attached to Lavine. Chicago traded Caruso for a project in Giddey instead of pursuing draft picks, which, given the reports, were certainly offered by numerous teams. It is possible they would see some upside in taking a flyer on Jalen. However, the third year of Jalen's contract being a PO does make taking a flyer on Jalen less desirable and potentially impossible. The question is, would any other team be willing to trade expiring or more desirable multi-year contracts than Jalen's for Lavine because it seems inevitable that the Bulls will and should embrace a rebuild? It is the Bulls, so who knows? Maybe their ownership is content with being a play-in team. If the team does not buy into Jalen's upside in a new situation then I struggle to see Jalen having any positive value given his horrendous play and new contract. A scorer who cannot score. a high-volume shooter who is one of the least efficient shooters. A play-maker and primary option who has low-IQ, and struggles to even make the most basic of reads. I could go on and on, but we all know who Jalen is and what he is not. How far Jalen has fallen that we are talking about trading him for Lavine who in years past could not even be given away for free. It is a moot point because this would be a gigantic admittance of failure from Stone and the front office to trade Jalen for Lavine so shortly after inking Jalen to a new undeserved contract. It is the same thing we saw Stone do with KPJ - Double down on his pet projects instead of accepting sunk costs and moving on. It is concerning moving forward.
Ultimately, why would the bulls trade a better player on a better contract for a worse player on a worse contract AND attach assets? Would be insane
Yeah, the fact is he's just not good enough, and hasn't improved his shooting at all. Remember when folks went nuts screaming about Westbrook and his 3's? Lots of people hated him on our team. LOL. Sure, Westbrook was a bad 3 PT shooter, but he took less than 4 three's a game. He was a 47.2% FG shooter though, and averaged. 7.9 rebounds a game, 7.0 assists, and 1.6 steals per game. Jalen averages 4.8 rebounds, 2.4 assists, and 0.9 steals. Westbrook's turnovers and 3 PT shooting were his biggest weaknesses, but he had other positives that compensated for it. He didn't jack up a bunch of bricks per game and his asst/turnover ratio was around the same as Harden at 1.6. Look at Jalen's assist/turnover ratio this year. It's 2.7/2.4. I just don't get all the excuses for Jalen being our starting shooting guard. It would be different if he was making huge progress in his proficiency each year but he isn't. He isn't a great passer either, or some kid with a great basketball IQ. I just don't get the fandom. We have other young guys that I think have more promise, but I'd definitely love to see us sign a better SG before playoffs, and trade Jalen, Cam, and Adams for a true contender.
The fandom of a lot stays the same because otherwise they would have to say sorry and admit that they were incompetent riding a player who has minimal BBIQ...... They would have to admit that they have had minimum IQ as well rooting for a player like that. It is the hardest to change people who are stubborn in their views.
That really depends, DD, on the Bulls still believing in the "potential" of Jalen as well as what direction the Bulls take - Embrace the rebuild or stay in mediocrity. Jalen's contract does not improve the Bull's cap situation as it expires a year after Lavine's and that last year is a PO, so that is not a selling point for trading for Jalen. If the Bulls want to rebuild then trading for Jalen would be a viable option as he is not going to help the Bulls win any games, and in place of Lavine, will help them lose more games. The Bulls would be taking a gamble on Jalen improving while he helps them tank. However, is that gamble worth being stuck with his contract for an extra year when they could just let Lavine walk a year earlier? The Bulls could still tank without trading Lavine by trading some of their other guys who have value or at least can be traded for expiring contracts. Guys like Vuc, and White. While it is fun to dreamcast shipping Jalen out, Stone would never make this trade because it would admit that drafting Jalen was a colossal mistake. I hope that singing Jalen to the extension does not have collateral damage, such as not being able to afford to resign Tari and Amen who will command a big payday, and deservingly so.
Q'n: Do you like the deal? Yes: 72.8% No: 27.2% Well, looking at the results of the (Oct. 21, '24) poll, almost 3 out of every 4 fans still are imbeciles.
Them trading Zach for a guy whose production is at a Jordan Clarkson level on a worse contract would be a tough sell. But then again, it’s the Bulls and they make awful moves consistently. Trading for Giddey, the Veucevic trade and plenty of other bad moves in recent years.
I am not saying that the Bulls would consider trading Lavine and additional assets for Jalen. I do see it as plausible that the Bulls would entertain a straight-up trade for Jalen, but this depends on various variables, such as if the Bulls decide to rebuild and if they believe that a change of scenery could unlock some of Jalen's potential.
