Jalen stans love to criticize JG the most [like I've been doing from the start] of course we all want him to improve further for the sake of the Rockets, we all know how to distinguish criticism from extreme hate/disdain that these jaters do.. and it boggles my mind how they take pleasure in that. while the extreme of extremes take it as personal attacks when a certain player is in good faith criticized... hmm.., seems like the balance of just/'justification' is schewed slightly in there.... or maybe not... just imagining things I guess..
No serious team would have Jalen as their 3rd option either. Jordan Clarkson or a Jordan Poole as the 3rd best player is a train wreck waiting to occur.
You're a good poster bro but we get this strawman argument every other page of this thread for over a year now. Can you show me anyone who said he's scoring well? Cause it looks to me like everyone knows he's scoring poorly but one portion of the fan base is debating how to improve that and the other half just believe nothing can change. Where's the guy who thinks Jalen is scoring well?
[oops..typo] meant.. love and criticize / love to - could also work[most especially for those who can't stop talking about not liking JG--might actually be 'super' stans ]
jalen should ideally be a numero seis or siete. with jalen's efficiency, i'd honestly rather have someone like marcus smart - crap efficiency, low iq on offense... but at least he can cause havoc and up the pressure on the defensive end. negative posting of jalen doesn't even reverse the jinx and his crappiness anymore. out of options now...
If you take out March of last year, everything looks very consistent with Jalen Green, which is terrifying. Please, basketball gods, let JG make some shots. 1: 43-34-80 2: 42-34-79 3: 42-33-80 4: 39-32-85 If Jalen Green develops into a star, he is taking a strange path to get there. If you want to look on the bright side, the FT% is encouraging.
Blocking out people is a cakewalk here, blocking out inefficiency not so much. I send you my respect but I don't have the same for certain players, sorry for not being sorry. I still think free speech and thinking should be allowed here without being name called a Jater or other names.
Very frustrating. The entire starting lineup is shooting worse than last season, every single starter. Thank god for Amen and Tari saving our ass without needing any offensive coaching, just their natural personality getting us hustle points. The most discouraging things are not even anywhere on that list. All those numbers are a few percentage points from his peak except assists, FT's and 2P%. Reduced his FT's even further, now approaching a career low. Career-low 2PT%. This for a player who's FG% less than 5 feet from the rim is higher than Alperen Sengun's (67% on 5 attempts vs 53.2% on 8 attempts). The % of his points coming off drives is down from 67% to 60%. Assists down. He's barely even thinking about passing the ball, playing very selfish recently. Instead, Udoka is pushing him to take 3's and middies. I really don't get it, it's so uncharacteristic of Udoka. You can say "just attack more aggressively" just as easily as "just make more jumpers" - you can't just decide to make more but at least let them do the more "in your control" thing, Green is obviously better at attacking than taking jump shots. I would rather see him get stuffed by a DPOY than see him take a jumper other than an open catch and shoot 3. Last I checked he was shooting like 20% on middies and 32% on 3's. At least bench him, get him out of the starting lineup. That's the least you can do. At some point, whether it's Jalen's choice or Udoka's choice we don't have to agree, but just f*cking try something else. You don't need an injury or a losing stretch to force your hand. We're going back to last year's experiment that collapsed mid season. Like when we went 6-16 from Jan 13 till Feb 29 while the players were visibly giving EVERYTHING they had on the court. We didn't have to wait 22 games to come to the realization: hey, try anything else. Need Udoka to put the leash on this guy or get him out of the starting lineup. If I'm Green, I'm forcing my way to the basket, and if I get benched I get benched doing the right thing. One of these guys has to bet on themselves. Unfortunately, it will have to wait till we're not on a good streak. No sense tinkering with a currently winning formula.
I am curious to see If he can be more selective. His defense has developed to the point where If you got him shooting 10-12 shots a game, instead of 16-18 shots, he would still help us win. That 6 for 9 FG game with 6 FTs against Chicago was pretty interesting. And then, once the efficiency rises, maybe you could slowly release him back into the wild. That, or just let him run more DHo with Alperen, for godsakes.
Been thinking about this too. A reset of sorts. Cut his shots down to just: 1) Attack aggressively if the rim protector is weak or away from the basket. No slowing down and changing speeds. No layups. Just go up and dunk it or kick out to the corner 3. Unfortunately this will be extremely rare because the paint is always packed. If that's not available then... 2) Wide open 3. If that's not available... 3) Just pass the ball to the next guy. Nothing fancy. Just a safe pass. I estimate this would be around 12 shots per game. If he keeps this diet for a few weeks along with continuing to play good defense, he's helping the team and beginning to understand his bread and butter. Earn his way up from there. A guy who's struggling from everywhere should not be taking every kind of shot. He drives, takes floaters, middies from everywhere, step back 3's, PnR, DHO... Shot chart looks like we're still in the Silas regime. When did he earn this green light to take any shot he wants? We don't even need most of those. You want to give him some leeway, but not this much. The only shot Udoka is restricting him from compared to Silas is to iso him on a big man while surrounded by shooters. I thought Udoka would reign in his shot selection a lot more than this.
Where are these Jalen haters OP is talking about? Outside of maybe Bobby, I don’t see that anywhere. Just people talking about Jalen’s offensive game right now and the occasional joke. That’s not hating.
I agree. That really aren’t that many Jalen Haters, just only fans that take any kind of criticism of their guy as hate. Jalen only fans are much more likely to pull against teammates (Rocketchump for example) than say Sengun only fans. Rocket fans want all our guys to do well, but can still be honest when a player is not playing up to snuff.
Bad decision making over and over, low bbiq on display. People say his only problem is his shooting and that’s actually the least of his problems, you can’t fix low bbiq
His low BBIQ is the glaring problem, so as the shooting as well. He is shooting low 30 percent from 3s and his true shooting was under 50 percent when I checked the number last time. That is not acceptable for a player going to get paid for 36m per year.
Yep, he has a low BBall IQ been saying that for years. At this point he is what he is.....a decent NBA player but not a great one. DD
In hindsight, now wouldnt we have taken Franz Wagner in the draft over Jalen? He's basically a 6'10 guard like Toni Kukoc was. He probably would start be starting at the 3 for us and as secondary ball handler. Franz and Sengun!
It feeds into each other, he’s a poor finisher because he makes the wrong decision to drive into defenders. He’s a poor shooter because he makes the wrong decision and takes the wrong shots. It’s been the same story for 4 years. It’s well known that shooting is the easiest part of the game to improve in the nba. However, bbiq is the hardest, in most cases you can tell right away whether a player knows how to play the right way when they are drafted, just needs to improve on some skills and physicals. That’s why it was so easy and obvious to see why Jalen was the wrong pick, does not take a basketball savant.
