I agree, mduke. Obviously, it was a mixture of factors. OU's defense deserves an immense amount of credit. Obviously, UT gave up an inexcuseable amount of rushing yards, but much of that was probably due to fatigue. It's a shame they couldn't take advantage of what seemed to be an "off" day for Jason White. They were even able to put pressure on him, but OU found the heart of their offense today in Peterson. I think his speed suprised me the most. I knew he was good, but he had a great combination of speed and power- especially for a freshman. The better team clearly won today. I was hoping UT could keep it close and find a way to steal a win. They certainly kept it close, but the better team made the plays when they needed to. It was only 12-0 because UT's defense did play better than I expected, but OU was also willing to play conservative and grind out the win, rather than always going for the throat on trick plays and deep passes.
With a talent like Vince Young and Ced Benson, Greg Davis could not figure out that an occasional OPTION play might be beneficial. GD is a joke. DD
Does UT have a quarterbacks coach? If not they need to hire one pronto. You cant let a talent like Vince Young go to waste. I cant believe they got shut out like that. The defense did its job, the offense was was just plain horrible. Vince has to do a better job of protecting the ball though, that fumble on the 14 yard line was a killer, Benson does too.
The game was so much like the one in 2001 (I think 2001, the defensive struggle where the RW blitz that sealed it). At the time I put a lot of blame on Simms. Yesterday a lot on Young. I still think neither are gamers nor smart leaders, but perhaps too much weight is put on them. Sure if you have a guy like Applewhite who can coach on his own he can overcome, but that fact is the offensive coaches have to put great athletes in positions to maximize their strengths and work on their weaknesses. Simms and Young should be good enough with the right coaches. How hard is it to teach QBs to glance before the snap to get an idea where the rush is coming from and how much time you have to throw? The OU corners didn't even bother pretending there were going to cover someone. Anyone still want to argue the Heisman Trophy winner from last year really was the best player in college football? Still, very gutty effort by the defense, DJ, Harris and Huff in particular, shouldering the complete burden of an incompetent offensive gameplan. Hello Spurrior or Tedford in 2005!!! Unless of course Mack saves his skin by sacking the entire offensive coaching staff or they finally take the fall for him. Will be interesting. Speaking of Tedford. Anyone who say USC-Cal saw a much higher level of a football game. It is very clear OU is not the best football team right now, the kind of coverage they tried versus Texas would have been chewed up by Rodgers or Leinart's balanced attacks. If anyone wants to bet OU will win the NC this year they are on. Just like every year since like 1999, they will stumble, bank on it. It will be fun to watch Stoops try to pull more excuses from his butt like after his throttlings last year. I can respect his coaching skill and the effort of OU players, but the guy is a giant ass so I don't mind at all when he is redfaced. Friendly wagers --name your signature for 3 months (Manny I am still thinking about yours ) to those who want to take a different take.
my UT friends still think Vince will be a Vick-like NFL star.. I admittedly don't watch many UT games.. but I barely hear anything about this guy nationally... Is he a sure fire first rounder like some of my friends think.?. or are they crazy.. then again when Simms started out they expected him to be an NFL STar too
It is funny how OU beat you guys for the fifth straight year and somehow you still find a way to praise Texas and rip on OU. Just admit it, you guys aren't on the same level as OU. How has OU stumbled every year since 99 when they won the championship in 2000? Just wondering, what excuses did Stoops make after the losses last season. Every time I heard him speak he said that the better team won those games. What did you hear?
Um, what does this year have to do with last year? Through 12 games last year he was by far the best college football player. He's sucked in a few games since then. Sure they've stumbled, every team does...especially your beloved Horns. The Sooners have just done it less than the rest of the country. Huh? Stoops is about the only coach that doesn't make excuses. I'd like to know what you thought was an 'excuse'.
Coaching, perhaps ... JUNIOR HIGH coaching. The guy couldn't connect from 5 yards or less. Maybe he wasn't meant to be a QB. Also ... there was a quote from an OU DL in the Statesman today ... something like "we could've played all night and they STILL wouldn't have scored ... ". That's confidence. Peterson should win the Heisman. Benson shouldn't even sniff it. Of course Benson blames his team, in a roundabout way - something like "he's got great receivers and a great passing game ... ". Typical humble Benson.
F*ck Mack. I won $181 by placing a $200 bet on OU at -6.5 I've been to every RRS since 1999, and watched too many of these beatings to expect any different outcome. I recouped the cost of my ticket ($85), hotel cut ($50), gas ($20), and some beer money. Despite being down only 3-0 at the half, at no point did I think that we had a chance to win. I'm glad to come away with the money. Horn fans are numb from these beatings.
I feel bad for all the UT fans that seriously thought we had a chance. There seemed to be alot on hornfans even after our crap performance against Arkansas. We will NEVER win a championship with Mack. It doesn't matter if he got rid of Davis. Sad thing is Mack's job is still safe. Even if we lost to Tech and a bowl game. I only wish we had Tedford. We probably would have a better chance getting Spurrier, but I don't really want him here. I don't know if OU is going to win the championship, but it's not like there are any other clear contenders other than USC. It's sad to see what's happening with Vince. By the time they're done with him, he'll have to go to the NFL as a receiver. His passing was more comfortable in high school. I haven't watched the tape, but I think some fans are putting too much blame on him. I'm sure he missed some reads and I know he missed some passes, but he's not put in a position to win with playcalling, pass protection, good receivers, or quarterback coaching. Greg Davis may know way more football than me, but he has no idea how to gameplan, make adjustments, or develop plays.
I can't blame VY. We couldn't run. We couldn't protect. We couldn't hit receivers. We couldn't catch catchable passes (see Nathan Jones). One man is to blame, Mack. It's all Mack's fault. He accepts responsibility but the AD won't hold him accountable. Our AD is a bigger p**** than Mack. And speaking of our awesome defense. Are you kidding me? OU should have scored more than 12. Their offense was almost I said almost as inept as ours. Only thing was their O was creating running lanes for AD. There is nothing to be proud of in that effort. People are just reaching. I will give props though to DJ. Poor DJ. He will make a great pro.
I have never said UT was had the better team or program after the losses and have given credit for OU as a team and their coach when it is due. I have also called it when they and their players (White, Lehman) are overrated, OR underrated (Roy W--the best college safety I can recall watching, Hybel, Griffin), as well with their teams--last year was overrated, the 2000 team (I meant 2000, not 1999 before) was underrated. IMO OU is with Miami and USC as the top 3 programs over the last 5 years. Texas is somewhere in the 5-10 range, they are in a different class of program because they have a different class of coach. It is a simple truth. One example of Stoops arrogance was at halftime of the Sugar Bowl when asked about what to do about the #1 ranked LSU defense (which had completely dominated his offense and the game). Instead of giving credit to LSU's defense he tried to argue about the question. Maybe I didn't see it, but I never remember Stoops saying LSU and KSU were the better teams, just that they didn't execute or something to that effect.
I wonder if you changed your opinion now? Remember when i said everyone wanted Mack fired! HAHA looks like you did too. What an idiot! You understand my poin on fran now, he can change too!
You're right. Mack and Fran have lost the EXACT same number of games (19) since they've been at UT and A&M respectively. I don't know how we can possibly think Mack is better than Fran or that Fran can't change. ...oh yeah. Mack's been at UT for 8 years and Fran's been at A&M for 3.
