Again, I don’t care about your “feelings.” The stats show otherwise. The stats are clear: Green has significantly improved as a 3 pt shooter, he’s just being asked to do a lot right now with FVV and Bari in shooting slumps.
Jalen’s previous best year from 3 : 34.3% Jalen this year : 34.5% He’s shooting a career high! Watch out! At this rate he will be at 36% before he retires.
@RHU525 mentioned catch and shoot 3s. Green’s shooting those pretty well, too, though RHU is correct that Brooks is shooting them by far the best on the team. Last season, Green shot 31% on catch and shoot 3s. This season, he’s shooting .37. Conversely, FVV was shooting .42 last season and has crated to .242. Again, when you look at the numbers, it’s clear Green has made massive strides as a 3 pt shooter, he’s just being asked to do too much to make up for others’ shooting slumps.
Yeah, except he only shot 6.8 3s a game that season v. 9.2 per game this season. He’s improved in virtually every 3 shooting metric, the difference is he’s being tasked with taking more contested shots due to lack of spacing otherwise. It’s really not that difficult to grasp.
I went back and forth with another poster about this last week. He went back and watched those threes and it's also counting the DHO off picks which I know he's shooting much better at. It just confirms what I've been saying. He's a much better shooter on the move than standing still, until he can get the catch and shoot percentages up he will never be a great shooter.
Beware. The Jaters will be out in force if you give any contributing circumstance that might be affecting his shooting. It is sacrilege to suggest that FVV and Jabari’s poor shooting could contribute to a spacing issue. Everything is Jalen’s fault unless he has a good game and then it is Jabari’s fault. Basketball is a team game and to play at the highest level all the components need to work well together.
.37 on catch and shoots is pretty darn good for a volume shooter. Not great, but quite good. For comparison sake:
@Houston77 is lying again. He’s not telling you on wide open looks with no defenders within 6 feet Jalen is shooting 26%, that’s why it doesn’t feel like Jalen is making his open looks. His other favorite player Jabari is at 12% on wide open looks btw, scary! https://www.nba.com/stats/players/s...Open&dir=A&sort=PLAYER_LAST_TEAM_ABBREVIATION
Yes, because “wide open” is skewed by the fact that he’s taken a lot of “Hail Mary” shots at the end of quarters. “Open” is far more relevant because he’s taken far more meaningful shots from that distance. Remove the “Hail Mary” and the percentage of “wide open” shots improves dramatically.
just to clarify, how does shooting from 6.8 attempts @ 34.3% to 9.2 attempts @ 34.5% an improvement? so a below average 3pt shooter can simply just significantly increase his attempts even his efficiency hasn't significantly increased to prove he has improved?
lol stop lying bro Jalen has shot 0 heaves at the end of quarters this season, now you are just making stuff up Go to shooting, then heaves - 0 attempts https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/greenja05.html
I don’t know what counts as “heaves,” but anyone who has watched knows he’s taking several bad shots at the end of quarters with time about to expire.
Apparently @CXbby hasn’t actually watched the games, because while I don’t know what qualifies as a statistical “heave,” anyone with eyes who has watched the games knows Green often takes poor end-of-quarter shots, which negatively impacts the few “wide open” shots he takes.
It's not, but to be fair, if you can shoot 34.5% from 3 every time in half court offense settings, you're actually not doing too badly, because the average half court offensive output is below 1 point per possession. So if Jalen's putting up this level of efficiency on 3s and you include various late shot clock prayer, it can be a workable number. However, more importantly the issue with Jalen is that his 2pt% is a ghastly 43%. And this is a player at get 22 and has all his athleticism. If this trend continues, no amount of 3pt shooting will make him viable as a high usage player.
The stats show Jalen is a 34% 3 point shooter. Same as last year. Same as the year before. That's what the stats show. Or do you not like stats that don't support your narrative? He added 1.8 3s compared to last year. Not exactly a gulf increase in volume. You can squirm and bend whatever numbers you want to try and prove your point. The overall numbers are paltry. 34% from 3. 38% from the field. Why is his number from the field so low? Is it also more volume? Or do you think maybe....just maybe....Jalen is a bad shooter that also takes bad shots? His strength is his speed and his athleticism. And yet I get to watch him resort to jacking up literally 9 3s a game because he doesn't seem to want to do anything else. He is plateauing offensively. He's been a bit worse defensively as well the last few games. Things are trending in the wrong direction. Again.
He's taken shots at the end of quarters this season. I don't recall wide open heaves. Maybe there have been one or two. Mostly, it is dribbling out the shot and shooting a highly contested 3. Every time I 've looked at end of quarter shots, it really doesn't matter too much for guys that attempt a lot of threes in a game. Anyone who watches games knows that Jalen shots a lot. Some open. Some not. Overall, he shoots enough that he's going to make things like heaves negligible.
Taking two additional 3s a game is massive in the nba. His shooting on catch and shoots is up from .31 to .37. He’s shooting .42 on open 3s. I mean, I don’t know what to tell you. His shooting has obviously improved. If averaged around 7 shots a game like last season, his average would probably be .37 - .38.
A heave is something like a half court shot at the end of the quarter, he wouldn’t have a defender close so that may count as wide open but I doubt nba.com includes those, in any case he hasn’t shot a single one of those. If you are talking about end of the quarter non heave 3, none of those are wide open that’s why they are tough.
