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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. Houston77

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    That’s absurd. I seriously doubt Amen will ever be a shooter on the level of Green. He can barely hit wide open 3s.

    And Green’s shooting is much better. He’s at a career high 3 pt percentage despite shooting way, way more 3s.
     
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    DD is clueless about everything. He's always wrong. Jalen will be fine. If he says something go with the opposite
     
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    I don't even think this is true when you watch him. When he gets to rim it's usually off pick and rolls, but whenever he is in isolation he always has to pull back and settle for that terrible mid range that he misses 90% of the time. Rarely do you ever see him beat anyone to the basket. No respects his shots and plays off him and walls him off. Then at any contact he just gets bumped off his spot and has to settle.
     
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    lol Jalen is one of the worst shooters in the NBA. Why can't Amen be better than that? 34% is his career high barely and that's only cuz last night he started 4/4 before bricking ever shot he took after that. You do realize he's at a career low 39% from the field right? It's also crazy that FVV is at 37% it's insane that we run our offense through these two guys and wonder why we don't score for long stretches. If we gave the ball to anyone else and had them shoot even Jabari I feel like it'd be better. He's one of the best streak shooters in the nba but not a good shooter at all.
     
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    You are clueless. I like that you are ignoring the fact that Green is shooting over 9 3s a game and STILL his average has gone up. He has to do that because literally no one else is hitting 3s at a reasonable click. If Amen was tasked with shooting 9 3s a game, his average would probably be .1. He can only hit wide open 3s at this point. Aside from Reed, Green is really the only decent, volume shooter we have with FVV in a slump, so we’re relying on him to create space.
     
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    Come on DD, that's not true, you're just flat out hating at this point. Jalen passes the ball a lot. He had 5 assist last night.

    Dude, I love KPJ too and wish him the best but he's no longer apart of the Rockets.

    Jalen has gotten to a good, not great, start this yr and I think he is turning the corner. I can say as of now, he's the best player, if not one of the best, on our team right now.
     
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    Nobody is asking Jalen to shoot 9 3s a game, they ask him to score efficiently, that's his role and can't fulfill it.
     
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    I can almost guarantee Ime is asking Jalen to do it, because we desperately need 3 shots and no one else is capable of hitting volume 3s at a decent clip with FVV in a slump. We badly need the spacing.
     
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    Ime is, he's asking the TEAM to shoot more 3's. They want to shoot more 3's than 2's this yr.
     
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    Amen is at 26% from 3. Jalen is at 34% from 3. Amen's has increased 13%. Jalens has remained at 34% every year. Amen's will likely increase. I'll look into their mid range averages later but I'm fairly certain Amen's are better.

    Take Kyrie for example. He's shooting like 55% from 3 on 5.5 attempts per game. Why isn't he shooting more of them? Why only 5.5? Shouldn't he be shooting like....15 of them? Why do you think he doesn't? Jalen was on the list (along with Bari) of the 10 worst wide open 3 pt shooters in the league. I can't count how many wide open 3s he missed yesterday. Amen hit more of his wide open 3s yesterday than did Jalen lol. Every 3 Jalen hit he had a hand in his face which isn't a good thing. He's a high variance player who takes high variance shots. When they fall, it looks amazing. When they don't (which is unfortunately quite often) it looks bad.

    And bragging about Jalen shooting a "career high" 34.5% from 3 is funny. Jalen Williams is in his 3rd year hitting 42% from 3 on 5.5 attempts. Green is in his 4th hitting 34% on an inexplicable 9 attempts per game when he can't even shoot.
     
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    I wish Jalen could make wide open threes. How do you actually think he's a good shooter. Literally one of most inconsistent shooters ever. He's at 39%. That is all time bad... and you say i am clueless. He was set up for at least 3 wide open threes in the fourth last night and missed all of them. No one is saying amen right now can shoot, but in 2 years I'd rather him shoot 9 threes a game than Jalen just cuz he's shown improvement.
     
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    Again, it’s not just about the raw percentages but rather the volume. Green is shooting 9 a game because he has to. No one else can to it aside from FVV who is cold. It’s pure stupidity to compare Amen’s percentage when he’s only taking 1 - 2 wide open 3s a game. At 9 3s, he’d probably be hitting .05 - .1.

    I mean, I don’t know how to explain this any better. Usually, when is player is tasked with significantly increasing their 3 point volume, their overall percentage drops. With Green, it’s at a career high. Not to mention he’s only 22. It’s absolutely feasible to see him improve to .37 at 8 - 9 3s a game in his prime, particularly is people around him would start pulling their weight from the 3 line.
     
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    You think a guy making 40% of 1 attempt is better than a guy making 35% of 9 attempts?
     
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    He does not have to shoot those terrible shots. If he just played within the flow of the offense more often. Rather than not forces terrible shots because he has such low bball IQ.
    Amen plays so much smarter he would never shoot 9 threes a game even if he could cuz he thinks he can get a better shot.
     
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    Never said that. Just saying Jalen sucks at shooting. I'm saying Amen seems to be improving. Jalen is the same guy he's been for 4 years. When he's on 1 out of 5 games he looks good then he's just atrocious the rest of the time. Because he doesn't do anything but force bad shots.
     
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    Green is hitting almost .42 on open 3s. The drop off from him and Reed to our next player is staggering. Like I said, he’s literally the only decent, volume shooter we have at the moment.

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    Curious to see what they count as open because when I watch the games when he's wide open in a catch and shoot he misses every single time. He's a much better shooter on the move. If they are counting the ones he comes off picks as open I can see it. But no way on catch and shoot threes is he hitting 42%. Just last night he was like 0-6 on those.
     
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    It literally says, verbatim, what qualifies as “open” shots. Sorry the facts don’t support your biases.
     
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    I would also like to say this is why I’m so high on a Sheppard / Green / Eason / Amen / Sengun lineup. Sheppard and Green are both really good “open” shooters, and Eason looks like he’ll develop into a decent 3 shooter. That should make up for the poor spacing that may be created by a Sengun / Thompson frontcourt, which otherwise is a fantastic fit.

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    The only person on the team that I feel is making wide open catch and shoot threes is Dillon brooks. It's not a bias. No defender within 4 feet could mean a lot of things. He can come off pick be wide open. He can create seperation, he can pull up in transition. I was specifically talking about the scenario where he's spotting up. More often than not it's a brick. Cuz he is a much better shooter on the move which is troubling.
     

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