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Jabari Smith Jr.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by austinite, Apr 25, 2023.

  1. Tom Bombadillo

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    2023-24:
    Fred: 57 TS%
    JG: 54 TS%
    DB: 55 TS%
    Jabari: 57 TS%
    Alperen: 59 TS%

    2024-25:
    Fred: 48 TS% -9
    JG: 52 TS% -2
    DB: 52 TS% -3
    Jabari: 50 TS% -7
    Alperen: 53 TS% -6


    This is not just a Jabari thing. This is a starting lineup thing. Every single starter is struggling to a degree.

    To bridge JG and Alperen, we need to try out different players. We need to find the right mix of halfcourt cutting and full-court chaos.

    Shake it up Udoka.
     
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  2. JW86

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    Yeah the beginning of that 3rd quarter I was fearful and rightfully so, it was clear that our starters lacked the energy and it was and is just not clicking. However, we’re 8-4 and I don’t want Jabari to to question himself or Tari to get out of sync by playing with a slower group. You obviously do not take out Green, FVV, Sengun or Brooks. So all we can ask is Ime to sub sooner in the 1st quarter to mix it up.
     
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  3. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    So basically we’ve shot up the team offensive charts because of our bench. lol what more sign does Udoka need?

    The team gets so few easy shots in transition and penetration. In transition especially, we’re almost bottom 10 in points, frequency and possessions ffs. We should be #1 ahead of OKC, GSW and MEM. That’s roughly 7 points we’re missing out on. That could swing two games. We’re also bottom 10 in drives to the rim.

    Wings cannot give you consistent production if they are severely limited to half court jumpers. They need transition and drives and FT’s in their shot diet. We’re starving for these. We’re built for these. This is what stabilizes a FG% for a guard.

    Super proud to see Amen and Tari put the pressure on Udoka. Soon he’s going to look silly for not starting one of them. Hope it’s Tari, but Amen’s jumper is further along than expected so we might be able to squeeze him in sooner rather than later. He’s looking like a star out there.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Btw, just for the record and at the absolute bottom of the barrel I’m going to say:

    Jabari is going to have a hell of a season. I can feel it. In some ways, he needs to see his ego crash and burn. He needs to realize very seriously that he’s going to be a 3&D player who loves his role or he’s going to be a bench player. Life will teach you things like that.
     
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  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    A few things break our way, and this could be a really special season. Quite a few guys are still playing below their potential by a good margin
     
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  6. AroundTheWorld

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    Jabari's presence on the court is highly detrimental for Alpi's performance. Jabari doesn't cut, he actually does NOT play great defense, he never passes to Alpi, he bricks every pass he gets from Alpi.

    Look at the 2-man lineup combination:

    Alpi with Jabari on the court - barely positive, +3.5:

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    Alpi with Bari on the bench, where he belongs - much better, +19.0 (98th percentile).

    upload_2024-11-14_7-28-27.png

    Bari is the reason our starting lineup comes out so sluggish almost every single time. He drags everyone down.

    Time to cut our losses.
     
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  7. Imanimal

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    Didn’t say 20 because I have watched this guy’s offense for 3 years and my eyes don’t lie. His ppg: 12.7; 13.8; 10.5 (thus far). He is who he is and that is a 13.5 ppg guy averaging a healthy 31 minutes a game which thankfully we are seeing drop a bit due to Eason’s electric play. Hearing NO looking to dump Ingram after 3-9 start. Not a big fan of the guy, but this team has a real offensive weakness at the PF position. That guy will get your 20 a night without a doubt.
     
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    What is your projection for Jabari in terms of his stats come season?

    I think he'll average 14 and 8 at 33% from 3.
     
  9. xtruroyaltyx

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    Bari and FVV gotta go.
     
  10. Downtown Sniper

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    But... he can't shoot?
     
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    The thing which stands out here, is just how bad Adams has been defensively. Yet there are people who'd give their first born to have him in defensively for Sengun. Laughable the blinders people put on.

    But back to the thread at hand - abari sucks.
     
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  12. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think by the end of the season he'll be averaging 37-38% from 3, rebounding better and playing more efficient defense everywhere.

    Not sure about points and rebounds will depend on minutes and whether he's starting.
     
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    Ingram’s defense sucks. We don’t need Jabari to be great on offense, we just need him to be adequate. He is in a terrible slump to start the season, but is contributing with his rebounding and defense. Ingram is also a rental. He wants a big payday next year.
     
  14. daywalker02

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    It only takes the Wizards of Oz or Portland, Utah to trade for him, and dude can average his 15 ppg.

    He is not Bronny James but he is also not someone like Jalen Green who just has huge flurries of scoring.

    But given the environment that is not uber difficult to achieve.

    Under Udoka, he is not really going to do that.
     
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    If it was only Jabari playing poorly amongst the starters, I'd be more concerned about him. It's literally all of them (cept Dillon). The newly minted 185m dollar man was getting worked by Zubac. The Brick Twins went 13/31 and 7/21 from 3.

    Don't get me wrong, Jabari needs to screw his head on straight. But yesterday we won (again) because the twins did the thing and Jock Landale was probably our best center performance. They were the ones that buult the lead and FVV/Sengun came in and almost coughed it up. Of the starters....only Dillon played well.
     
  16. Downtown Sniper

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    Stop it.

    Go and re-watch the entire game and detail every single instance the '185m dollar man got worked by Zubac'.

    We'll all stay here waiting for your maybe 2 or 3 dot point presentation.

    Landale was the best centre?

    Jesus bro.... this is called serious delusion.

    Alpi had a very bad game offensively. Guess what, every single other aspect of his game was good to above average. DEFENSE INCLUDED.
     
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    Not talking about diversity of his offense. Nobody is claiming he can do a lot of things on offense. We are talking about shooting because you and a lot of people now are saying he's not a good shooter. 3pt shooting and FT shooting are what usually mark a player's shooting. Jabari shot above average on 3s and FT at decent volume. That's the sign of a good shooter.
     
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    High school and your job is really not a good analogy unless your job has something to do with what you did in high school. If you are interviewing for a job in journalism and you have been the school paper editor in high school and in college and did a good job, it definitely would have been a consideration for hiring you.

    He can't do it consistently. I've said that he's in similar situation as Jalen's last season. This is his 3rd season. It's supposed to be the breakout season for him. He came out doing very poorly. It's disappointing to say the least. He still has a whole season to turn it around. Jalen played great for a month and got a big but short contract to buy him some more time. If Jabari can shoot at 40% level in a long stretch this season, he'll have a chance to be a keeper.
     
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    This is very reasonable take. Fans calling for Jabari’s head after twelve games is very immature.
     
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    The NBA is vastly complex, College could be similar to the GLEAGUE light but with sometimes more tactics during March Madness but the pressure level is vastly different.

    Also in College Bari has 40 games, he can go into those games like it was a glorified NBA scrimmage whereas he can't do it in real competition and 2 games in 3 days...b2b..etc.

    And rhythm players like him probably miss his Auburn status and the Auburn stomping grounds.

    Nobody is going to run any plays for some KG wannabe who hasn't done anything in the league.


     

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