I'm not insulting you here now. You are the only conservative leaning individual in this thread that is expressing sincere thoughts. But let me remind you the concept of deporting millions of people through force that leads to things like forceful separation of families and severe trauma is a very emotionally charged topic. The people I'm going back and forth with wasting my time like this Tomstro guy aren't debating in good faith and if you dare yourself review the back and forth for the past few pages you can obviously tell these people are debating with severe levels of insincerity. Ill insult those people who defend mass deportations through insincere trolling. I don't think you want massive deportations that Trump is bragging about doing. I don't think you are that type of hateful person. I think there are reasonable grounds of debate about the border in terms of level of security but the MAGA movement has become so extreme that it is impossible to now discuss issues regarding immigration without these heated exchanges because we got a dude who just got elected who says bat **** insane stuff like "migrants poison the blood of the country.
Well my point was that minority votes for trump are increasing, and I highlighted the 21% black male vote. It was a big increase. Your response seemed to be a reminder to me that 21% doesn’t win that demographic outright. My only point was that there has been a sizable shift there and in hispanic votes.
No it wasn't. It was extremely clear. What do you want numbers for? Flag wavers or the people who are nice, then shake a black man's hand and then wipe it on their pants? Do you want the numbers who are outwardly nice then go home and rant about ni**ers and sp*cs to their family and friends? The people who others say "there is no way that person is racist" then they go out spout racist **** to people who they believe are aligned with them? I was very ****ing clear. Your reading comprehension sucks.
I also drink NUE Vodka it's from Texas as well but only when I'm doing mixed drinks. Oh BTW. My dog I's probably an illegal. A Daschund whose papers got lost. I suspect he is a German double agent. He acts very superior to me at times and acts like it's my job to serve him.
There are no good faith conversations with you. You’re a racist. You don’t think in good faith terms.
Damnit man! Get a real dog. Not some German ankle biter. If it is going to be German it has to be a Shepherd or a Wolfhound! A Pinscher will do in a pinch. Okay that was too far. Never insult a man's dog. LOL
Not at all. I get exactly what you’re saying. There is no way of knowing how many white people have evil racist thoughts and feelings. *but probably a lot
I in no way want mass deportation. I will say one thing and I'm not trying to be political. This is going to cost America financially for years to come. To deport all of these folks is a money drain. And if they stay here it is also a money drain. For different reasons though. Once these individuals get the wage they deserve the price on all they or those also doing the job goes up. That may be a symptom of some of this conundrum.
German Shepherds are defective. Hip dysplasia to often. Low life span average. My last two doxies lived to be 14 and 17. That's 31 years of self inflicted torture if my Ross Perot Texas math is correct.
I know man. My ex and I had a white German Shepherd. We had to eventually have her euthanized due to hip displaysia. The dog. Not the ex. Although...
but in this case i dont think there is anything to assume. its perfectly clear what it was, who organized and who was speaking. nobody who took part in the "unite the right" rally can claim ignorance.
ok, but we are talking specifically about the charlottesville event. those people were white supremacists.
Not looking for a fight and not wanting to be insulting but, I fail to see the purpose of vodka. Unless of course that’s all there is
Yes - I largely agree with you and I can use the Southern Border in the USA as an example. There has been for many years a former road/crossing between the USA and Mexico, and there have been government employees on both sides that work to ensure that no one is open and obviously doing something highly illegal while crossing the "popular" border - but the vast majority of the border was not monitored and anyone that really wanted to get across the border could do so. We used to go and walk and cross the border, have fun in Mexico and with walk back. There were people that lived on one side of the border, and worked on the other and this was only 35 years ago. Border control isn't humans advancing, it is only necessary when there is a threat or possible threat. We already have borders, and they do not have to be walls either. I understand that we have to turn people away or that most of America thinks there should be limitations - but there are ways to do that are not as draconian as some suggest.
Hiring undocumented workers is a crime which if reduced would help reduce illegal immigration. Why is it that only the workers are being targeted?
To me it is pretty simple and there can be a compromise - but I don't think that a government with control of all branches is going to want to compromise. My suggestion would be to separate the issue of illegal immigrants in the USA and how we approach immigration going forward. For those already in the USA - I would offer an easy path to citizenship for those that do not have a violent criminal record and have lived in the country for a set period of time. These people are already here, they already are part of the economy and have connections to the country. Give them a period of time to claim their citizenship and that way we have a better idea of everyone in the country. Many of these people will not be from the Southern border, but people that overstayed a visa, etc. To those with a violent crime background - I would deport them. Going forward - I would get a bi-partisan agreement on the proper spending on border security and clear rules on immigration. There will be fighting over what the rules should be, but people can compromise. What I think is being lost right now - is that immigration overall has been exceptionally good for the USA. There are people that do not want particular groups let in the country, but that was the case 100 years ago.
