It requires a lot of luck to find the super star material. We were not that lucky. And no other team, only OKC and magic with Paolo. People should stop the "it is too early" argument. One year is enough to see how much potential one has. All we can do at the moment is try to build the 2000s detroit. We can build a championship contender with Amen and Tari. Sheppard can be also part of it. Jalen can come off the bench and destroy the opposing teams when he is on fire. I am not sold on Alpi if he can be a reliable piece in a true contender. But he is not too far. Rest of the team is replaceable. We need to add 2 more starters. They dont need to be superstars and i dont think we have any chance to add a superstar to the team eithrr by trade or by draft
At this point? Zero. In the future? Who knows. Do I expect anyone on this roster to ever be at a level that SGA is right now? No. If you were to ask me how many players on this team will participate at a future All-Star game for the Rockets, I'd put the over/under at 1.5.
SGA when he had good efficiency was playing on a pretty deep Clippers team. Also while SGA is a lot better on offense, JG right now is so much better on defense than 23 yr old SGA. He can also bang inside because he is sturdier than SGA. Give Jalen time to mature SGA is 26 while Jalen is only 23. If SGA is someone with superstar on why did Clippers trade him for Paul George? He wasnt even the centerpiece of the trade he was just a part of it. People are so damn impatient the Rockets only had years to rebuild and already 0.500 last year. Which team rebuilt this quickly from the basement apart from OKC?
If you can't tell after a year or 2, who has star potential, you aren't paying attention, every superstar in the league in the first couple of seasons you knew....... We don't have that on this team. DD
Bruh we rebuilt for 3 yrs. Spurs started rebuilding a year earlier and they still in the doormat year 5. And they hit on Wemby last year right?
Not sure. Too early to tell. Shai really broke out at 25. Green and Sengun are both 22 and Amen is 21. We all need to chill a bit.
Oh yeah so how come Clippers didnt know SGA was a superstar traded him for Paul George? How come Presti didnt know Harden was a superstar traded him for Kmart and scraps? How come Presti didnt know Sabonis was a star and traded him for Paul George? How come Ainge didnt know Jaylen Brown and Tatum were superstars and brought in Irving and that white dude to supplant them? I guess all these people werent paying attention?
This is just completely wrong. Shai averaged 19 in his second season. Tatum averaged 15. Jaylen Brown broke out in his 5th season when he was 24. And it’s not just “seasons.” It’s age. Most stars break out around 23 - 25. We don’t have a prospect over 22.
People really act like Lebron and MJ were winning rings at 22 yrs old. Some players instantly glow up, usually these are the generational stars in the world. But others take some time cuz the prime of players are age 25. We will have to wait and see.
Don't want to sound like Stroud but you're right everyone has their own path. But if you're those ages and don't take those leaps, then the team that drafted you will be packing you to an OKC for a Paul George. Spend the next 2 years self reflecting. Sengun/Green, Green/Sengun. They've taken that initial leap to stardom. Need more cohesiveness in their offensive style whatever that is right now.
I don't think this is true at all. Two big ones that come to mind are Giannis and Joker. I guess if you just want to argue "star potential" then sure, but you weren't sure about those guys in year 2, not even close. Go look up their stats in year 2 and tell me you see MVP candidates. A lot of players have "star potential" in their first couple years but very few reach it. Every year that goes by it becomes less likely unless they're on a steep upward trajectory. Giannis and Joker both maintained that steep upward trajectory straight into superstardom. Having said that, I think it's pretty safe to say the ship has sailed for Sengun and Jalen. They both had star potential, as many players do, but I think at this point it's really really unlikely for either of them. Like sub 1%. For me they both had major weaknesses that I thought could be addressed and fixed, and that would be the path to superstardom. Unfortunately I haven't seen either of them address those areas. I don't see a superstar on this roster.
Shai is 26, a 6 year pro, entering his 7th year. He's technically in his prime (middle of it). He is very good, their window is technically right now, despite some of the other cast being younger. He has maybe 3-4 more years of a good shot before decline (athletic guard type). Not closing but timer is ticking for him.
Giannis and Jokic 29, and Embid 30. Those guys while at the very top, is maybe at tail end of that very top window. Being top 5 to moving down to top 20. Superstars to pretty good stars / servicable. Like Harden, from MVP contention to reliabily solid. Every 3-4 years, crop of talent turns over.
It's not the numbers it is about how they play, the force in which they play, the confidence, the way teams have to account for them and focus on them, we don't have it on this roster, we have a lot of good solid players, maybe an all star appearance or two, but we have NO one on this team that you can honestly say, is going to be a SUPERSTAR - not a single one. We need a SUPERSTAR player - and yes, Morey knew Harden was a Superstar, his numbers as the 6th man and closer showed that....SGA they knew but he was the price for Paul George who was a superstar. And BTW - none of our guys are on that level either. Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, I like our team, we are a 3-4th seed tough out type of team when we all mature, but unless one of our guys breaks out and becomes that superstar, we are going to have to trade. Superstars also come with major confidence, the ONLY players with that on the Rockets are Sengun and Cam - and I contend that Sengun is about at his peak - because he has been a pro for so long, 20-10 is damned good, all star, but not superstar... And Cam has the confidence, the ego, the stick it to them mentality, but his selfish play is a problem and he has guys playing in his position that are thwarting him. DD
I think Sengun is a star without question. But I'm not sure he and Green are a good fit together. I wouldn't be against experimenting with Eason and/or Thompson in the starting lineup. Maybe we need to try something different.
