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I Will Not Give Up on this Country

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Nov 6, 2024.

  1. Agent94

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    Vance has a deep core of undemocratic beliefs. He is worse than Trump. Trump is a self interested clown. Vance is a true believer in a weird autocratic silicon valley ideology called the neoreactionary movement. And he's got the backing of billionaires.

    "the neoreactionary movement, whose adherents believe — as Thiel wrote in 2009 — that freedom and democracy are incompatible and that democratic governments and bloated federal bureaucracies should be replaced by enlightened autocratic regimes."

    https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/16/24266512/jd-vance-curtis-yarvin-influence-rage-project-2025
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    Rise of the Machines
     
  3. SuraGotMadHops

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    THOUSANDS of miles? Lol this isn't the Book of Exodus bro.
     
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  4. SuraGotMadHops

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    I bet you ask people if they're a biologist when they say they know what a woman is.
     
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  5. FranchiseBlade

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    A biologist isn't a mental health expert. You were the one that brought up a mental health expert. I also think that you might be surprised if you asked a biologist.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes thousands of miles. Google migrant Caravans. Or talk to some of the Central and South American immigrants.
     
  7. SuraGotMadHops

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    I'll try to find some local South American migrants to get their personal accounts of their journey before they get deported.
     
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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Please do.
     
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    I admire you man and will try to do the same. That said, I am greatly disturbed and a little heartbroken that this country elected such a morally bankrupt person.

    MAGA is MAGA, and with the Fox News and Twitter echo chambers, they are unreachable. As for the swing voters that voted for Trump, particularly Latino families, I do understand why “democracy”, “abortion”, and “freedom” are meaningless niceties when you are struggling to make ends meet. That was my family in the 80’s. If you haven’t lived it, you don’t truly know. When you are hungry, word salad isn’t what you are looking for. These people don’t understand that a president cannot wave a magic wand and lower prices.

    My greatest concern is that Fox News and social media has a grip on an increasing part of the electorate, and there is no going back. There is no limit on the willingness to lie, deceive, divide and foment hate toward minorities, and no ability and decreasing interest in distinguishing between fact and fiction.

    Before Trump, I used to think that the pendulum will just swing back once the electorate becomes tired of Trump. That is how it has worked historically. I am far less confident that the pendulum is capable of swinging back.
     
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    @ROXRAN @AroundTheWorld @SuraGotMadHops @basso @Space Ghost and anyone else that voted for Trump, sincerely do you guys believe in ANY concerns the left has for him as FranchiseBlade mentioned above, or do all you guys believe that all of it is nonsense?
     
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    What? I think your mental makeup is broken to believe politics is a team sport when we're supposed to be on the same team. Most honest people should have beliefs and ideologies that belong to both sides. Even now I want Trump to succeed. If Trump succeeds we all succeed.

    I, for one, didn't appreciate being told democracy was on the line while simultaneously having Kamala forced on me. They lied about Joe Biden's mental state. I'm still bitter about Bernie in 2016. It's not like I was against voting Republican.

    But the way you have been able to ignore Trump's felonies and rape case is beyond unbelievable. He shouldn't have made it out of the primary.
     
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    All nonsense.
     
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    I do not even know much about the Candidate Harris because it felt she was not there as Vice President.

    But somehow it still hurts like a mfo. There is something about that Charisma.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    nonsense. President doesn't have unchecked power.
     
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    Which parts of the evidence were nonsense? Be specific.
     
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    Everything you post. You are a far left socialist. The majority of the country does not share your extremist world views. In fact, people like you are what is killing the Democratic Party. Common sense, normal people have had enough of your ****.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    I wasn't referring to my thoughts. I was talking about the evidence of Trump's own texts, sworn testimony from his staff and administration, physical evidence, and legally admissible evidence.

    All of your other petty name calling doesn't address the subject.
     
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    Sour grapes. Your side lost. Accept it and ask yourself why. Hint: You and people like you are the reason.
     
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    They won't get a legal abortion in Texas if they want one. I'm sick of this trans rhetoric. If a bearded trans person went into a women's restroom you would flip your ****. So spare me the "use the bathroom for the sex you were assigned at birth. You're the same type of sick **** who is okay with hot lesbians, but not gay men.

    https://www.sll.texas.gov/faqs/abortion-illegal-texas/
     
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