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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Oh God heard my prayers. We finally do not have to put up with that red headed stepchild who lies for a living.

    “The border is secured” my ass!
     
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  2. Smokey

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    Blaming Biden (the person) is being a sore loser. Democrats got their ass kicked because they underestimated the nation’s frustration with the economy. People are worried about how to pay the bills not that Trump is a convicted felon who led an insurrection. They focused on the wrong thing and thought they could ride on women’s rights and anti-Trump anger. Didn’t work.

    I still believe the Democrats need to stop being the party for everyone when losing means they’re the party for none. It will be interesting if the Democrats start kicking people out of their tent to win.
     
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  3. dobro1229

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    Yes calling people names is a great way to really prove how morally superior you guys are.

    The last 4 years were pretty good for me actually. Had the highest earning years in 22 and 23. This year down a little but still very blessed. I don’t have to make excuses for Biden. I judge the results based on facts… not based on how I feel after listening to Joe Rogan conspiracy theories or whatever it is you get your information from.

    I really don’t give two fcks though about what you think. In a short matter of time you’ll have to be here owning all of the harmful crap Trump is going to do to this country. Don’t take it from me… go listen to him tell us what he’s about to do.

    I’m good and clear eyed. Have fun and enjoy today because you have years to come to shrink into denial, delusion, and embarrassment.
     
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  4. fchowd0311

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    Man I just don't want people who call humans who pick avocados under minimum wage a invasion force that is poisoning the blood of our country in positions of power in this country. I just want to be able to be frank and call those people who label powerless people things like invaders or making up stories of them stealing and eating pets aka " blood libel" as bigots without people like you saying I'm too mean to bigots.

    Is that too much to ask?

    Can we move on from the "why are you mean to bigots" playbook that the average right leaning person online goes to? Aren't we well beyond the point of knowing it's a bad faith argument?
     
  5. mtbrays

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    I hope the conservatives on this board notice that a lot of us liberals on the board today have pretty measured, reasonable tones. We're not name calling, we're not alleging fraud, we're not doing anything other than trying to take stock of where things stand as a country.
     
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  6. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    I agree. Their wild hyperbole probably didn't help them either. None of the people who were on the fence were thinking, "Do I want to vote for the fascist or keep democracy?"
    Or they could be the party for everyone by abandoning identity politics in all of its forms. Get rid of DEI, affirmative action, etc. and just focus on treating everyone as an American. Voters are not looking to be scolded into voting for you.
     
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  7. Scarface281

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    "Some" liberals have been like that. Most of the ones who were spewing the most hate/name-calling the last few months have vanished since yesterday evening when it was becoming officially clear. The tone from sound might come off as respectful but there's still a lot of "the rest of America isn't smart" mixed in there.
     
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  8. Sajan

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    You are expecting a lot from that crowd. Please lower expectations.
     
  9. tmacfor35

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    Could care less. All of your talking points are unoriginal. You don't think for yourself. Trust me, you will just come blast an opinion piece you read off CNN or some ALT left site. America rejected your thought process last night decisively.

    Your version of America is not American and the country agreed.
     
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    The adults that were in the room all tried to tell us what an unfit moron Trump is. He was left with the freaking pillow guy and the husk of Giuliani. The lesson he learned from the first term was to surround himself with sycophants. The guy is surrounded by the biggest group of grifters, losers and morons I've ever seen. Tulsi Gabbard, RFK jr, Elon Musk, Dana White, Vivek Ramaswamy. Good god this is comical. I swear this is some ****ed up simulation.
     
  11. Agent94

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    Identity politics is all MAGA does. It's freaking identity memes from y'all 24/7.
     
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    Whatever clown. See you here in 8 months when Trump is once again proving to the world that he's a disaster for the American people, and only serves himself & his billionaire buddies. The joke is on you.
     
  14. tmacfor35

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    Half of America was tired of being called racist, bigots, facist etc. We are ready to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Its our turn.

    We rejected the brainwashed ideology the left have adopted.

    Since 2015 anyone whose opposed the "Dem Party"(I won't even call them democrats because that would be giving them too much credit) have been under constant psyops by liberal propaganda.

    Who remembers hearing about how the "educated" vote was going to go to democrats in 2016. Or how Trump supporters are racist. Like what? Gaslight much?

    Remember when Biden said you aren't black if you vote for Trump? The fact that it didn't get any backlash is insane. Were black people not offended a white man was telling them what to do or the parameters of being black. Its more disgusting gaslighting. Wild how the media let that one die.

    They censored the Hunter Biden story on social media and said it was false. Despite it being true!!!!This is the same stuff they do in communist countries. War mongering government who censors negative news. Hmmm...

    The few of us in here that aren't hyper left liberal are very much centric based on what I have seen. Most normal people are. You literally can't find a perfect candidate because the goal is always to cast the widest net. Which Trump has done with the Tulsi/Elon/RFK Jr/Vivek grouping. You wonder why he won in a landslide.

    Anyways, more left poison to discuss. Days before the election. Obama quoting Trump in admittedly lying about the "good people on both sides," a story that has been debunked. a million times in order to piss off black people.

    Joe Biden the sitting president calling more than half the country "Garbage." It wasn't a speech gaffe by the way. He said how he felt. More gaslighting by the way.

    Mark Cuban disrespecting women who support Trump by gaslighting them.

    Again, good old Oprah the day before the election saying, "you will lose your right to vote," just to again.... manipulate the left.

    I've seen normal people in here called KKK Supporters, Facist Lovers, Etc by the crazies on this board. Most of you were acting batshit crazy.

    I don't honestly think your idiots. You just are governed by a party that think you can be easily manipulated and gas lighted in to submission. You have proven them to be completely correct.

    The Dem Party is the most racist organization in the world. Maga is misunderstood and accepting of everyone.

    Stop being puppets to people that think you are dumber than dirt.
     
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  15. fchowd0311

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    One aspect that the Weimar Republic liberals hoped for in conceding to the rise of the Nazi party was a belief that these fascists who love to play politics, love the brashness, the street violence, the hateful rhetoric of migrants, Jews etc would hate actual governance and that Nazis suddenly having responsibilities to run the country will slow them down and bore then into flaming out the Nazi movement. The problem with their hope was not understanding how ideological driven the leaders of the Nazi party were. Hitler was an ideological nut.

    Trump isn't and that is probably the one hope sane people who fear fascism have with Trump. Does he have the will and motivation to see through his rhetoric like deporting 20 million humans?

    That's the part you Trump supporters don't recall from the first term and are blind to now because of a recent victory that has you jubilated. Now you guys will have to defend from a place of governance. Now any issues that happen around the globe and in this country will be blamed on Trump rather than Biden. And that wasn't fun for you guys. You guys love the hate rhetoric part but don't like the governance part and talking responsibility for who you chose to put in power part.
     
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  16. fchowd0311

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    Why can't we call people who support a person who made up claims of a ethnic group stealing and eating pets in America and defending the claim by saying "I saw it on TV!" as bigots?

    You if you existed in 1920s Germany - "Mein fellow German, why are you calling those who make up stories of Jews stealing and drinking the blood of gentile babies as bigots? Isn't that a cruel label on our fellow Germans? They just believe Jews drink the blood of gentile babies."
     
  17. Aware

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    i hate it here.
     
  18. basso

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    MI and NV called, and AZ will be, which gets Trump to 312.

    but, I forgot that Oregon and Colorado passed laws granting the states electoral votes to the national popular vote winner...

    oops.
     
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  19. DonnyMost

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    It does paint a pretty stark contrast looking at a lot of the respected non-Trump people on this BBS posting very measured and thoughtfully while there's maybe two Trump voters here who aren't A) doing nothing but sh1tposting and B) guilty of having indulged in conspiracy mongering and sore loser victimhood over the last 4 years.

    I have no idea what else the rest of us can do to acquit ourselves. The double standard by which we're judged is just insane and neverending.

    I will proudly go to my grave never having voted for Trump, but I'll be even prouder of the way I handled myself in the wake of his victories. Some of us still want the country to succeed and have enough personal pride to not succumb to our worst impulses when times get tough. Some folks could learn a thing or two about it.
     
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  20. tmacfor35

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    You were all election cycle. Maybe not you.

    "Garbage, Facist, Nazi's, Racist, Uneducated. "

    I've been called that so many times on this board.

    American's spoke last night. Were probably done keeping quiet. It's time that things get back to being abrasively blunt.
     
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