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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. durvasa

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    I’m trying to figure out what motivates people to have such extreme confidence that their candidate is going to win. One reason is that it lays ground work to make claims that the election was rigged should their candidate actually lose — and that strategy is pretty blatant on the Trump side. Otherwise, is it a belief that if you think something is going to happen then that makes it more likely to happen? Or people just block out information that adds stress to their life?

    I guess it’s no different than NBA fans overestimating how good their team will do.
     
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  2. Kemahkeith

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    True that.
     
  3. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    It is not even close breh. It is too big to rig this time. They want to make you think and feel like it is close because we are in a misinformation war.
     
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  4. Rileydog

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    I interpret it the same way.

    I would say there is a ratio of 5 to 1 or 10 to 1 in terms of the the dishonest takes from Trump outlets and left leaning outlets. And it’s no accident because Trumps entire strategy is to “flood the zone” with dishonesty and lies. And it’s been effective because the voting public is exhausted with dealing with this stuff.

    I don’t know if this will have any impact in the last days. Seems relatively mild. I think the Puerto Rico stuff could be meaningful, but that’s about it
     
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  5. Nook

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    Some of it is personality. Just like there are some people that are 100% convinced that their God or interpretation of God is right and do not question.

    Some of it is that people want something to belong to - and to be winners vicariously through another person or organization.... you see it with bandwagon fans in sports and in politics too.

    Some of it is that people have so many choices in media and social media that they are surrounded and insulated with what they want to hear - and then their friends become people in that same sphere as well.
     
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  6. Kemahkeith

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    Pay the Man Shirley
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  7. SamFisher

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    For Trump absolutely it is part of the strategy. Shitpoasting and the campaign are the same.

    On the other side, being a doomer is a downer and doesn't accomplish much, espeically when the opposition is an Autocracy/authoritarian gov that seeks to rule through fear and intimidation as much as force.

    Look at Russia - they have had Trump/Musk style Kakistocracy/Oligarchy for decades. It is not exactly a country full of people that are brimming with optimism and confidence.
     
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  8. FranchiseBlade

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    Yes. Even the things they look at tell stories that make it unclear. Women doing early voting is up in both PA and WI. That doesn't tell us who they are voting for, but might be an indicator. Republican early voting more than in 2020. Even that doesn't tell us who are they voting for but might be an indicator.

    Trump preemptively complaining about cheating in PA could mean he knows that he is likely to lose PA, but who knows?

    Total toss up and nobody knows.
     
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  9. SamFisher

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    Should also add - since Trump will lose the popular vote by millions of votes - AGAIN, as he has twice before, projecting false confidence helps obscure the undemocratic nature of the Electoral college, an illogical disaster of an institution that serves no real purpose.
     
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    I think those voting Kamala dread a Trump victory and that is the predominant undercurrent on the Dem side, whereas trumpers simply mirror lord Trump, so they are convinced they will win and it is ordained.
     
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  11. adoo

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    yet, Trump lost by a bigger popular vote---the largest ever in history---on his 2nd run,


    some of the Trump campaigners are pointing out the large early turn-outs among registered Rep voters; but can't breakdown to how many of these Rep voter had already voted for Harris.
     
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  12. Haymitch

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    My prediction as of noon on 11/1/24 is that Kamala will win. But, my prediction a couple weeks ago probably would have been a Trump win. Also, my prediction is subject to change. Lastly, I am often wrong.

    Thanks for your time.
     
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  13. Scarface281

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    Your attempts at sounding superior just make you look more pathetic. Try something different.
     
  14. Rileydog

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    I invite people to add to the early voting data and commentary they’ve seen:

    - In early voting, women outpacing men by 10 percent, particularly in many battleground states of PA, NC, MI and GA. But I’ve seen commentary that this is no different from 2020. If true, doesn’t this augur well for Trump? Harris has supposedly gained among all women and presumably needs to outperform 2020 for women. Perhaps the counter argument is 2020 was Covid year, so more people voted early? That seems somewhat weak an argument.

    - I have seen republicans claim that republicans are outpacing Dems in new voter registrations. If true, I don’t see how that can be interpreted in any way but favorably for republicans.
     
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    Tim Burchett on Trump's Cheney comments: "I didn't know there were 9-barrels in a firing squad."

     
  16. No Worries

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    Project much?
     
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  17. Scarface281

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    Your posts don't age well at all. whether that be weeks, days, or hours later (like in this case).

    You go around making random posts calling me stupid, and THAT is what I call projecting... I dont have time for you, so you can have the last word.
     
  18. Commodore

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    Obvious lying in defense of nepot loser warmonger Liz Cheney, that's the Dem's closing argument for the election?

    yikes
     
  19. dmoneybangbang

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    Seniors in PA seem to be breaking more for Harris than Trump which seems to be a continuation of a trend

    Anecdotally, my Reagan Republican 70 year old father voted for Biden in 2020 and voted for Harris in 2024 because of the Trump rhetoric/behavior plus he didn't like how MAGA handled COVID considering his demographic. He told me he voted GOP for all the down ballet.
     
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  20. Xopher

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    Trump may win. It is a toss up. What won't change though is you'll still be a piece of **** who doesn't pay their debts.
     

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