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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. basso

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    what a fascinating little world you live in.
     
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  2. DaDakota

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    What is funny is the idiots talking about polymarket - which is 100% foreign betting you can't be a US citizen and bet on Polymarket.

    DD
     
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  3. daywalker02

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    I think there are enough guys voting him for his business man tag but ....

    at the end of the day how many are going to replicate the career of a Donald Trump.....

    It is not realistic, if it has not happened already, good chances are it would not happen under Trump.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    It is because some Americans are TOO ****ING STUPID to realize that you can't run government like a business, the job is not to turn a profit.

    DD
     
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  5. SamFisher

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    Why does JD want them off the couch?

    Many people are asking
     
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    So the opinions of an elected official’s appointees are powerful, persuasive and should be heeded, am I right?

    Now do the billion Trump appointees.
     
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    It's also different when it's one or two bitter people like with Walz or dozens of people that a majority, including those who were his second on command and head of the joint chiefs of staff. Trump loses by a long shot of people that have worked with him and don't think he's fit to serve m
     
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  10. bigtexxx

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    The collapse of Kamala has been entertaining to watch. It ironically coincided with her actually taking interviews and speaking without the aid of a teleprompter. She’s done. Cooked. Her tagline of “time to turn the page” is hysterical, considering she has been the VP the last 3.5 years. Open borders and inflation don’t play well with Americans. She and Biden f’d those up badly. Trump will win in a landslide.
     
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  11. Mr.Scarface

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    Bet:
    If Kamala wins, you don't post for year. If Trump wins, I will do the same. Agreed?
     
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  12. FrontRunner

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    I'm not sure if this is posted somewhere between the spammed tweets but here's what's going on with "the betting markets" that some here talk about so much. I know some of you know this, including the guy that's talked about it so much, but some don't, so...


    Betting Market That Touts Massive Trump Win ‘Is Being Manipulated’: Experts
    Elon Musk is among Trump supporters who say Polymarket shows he will win.

    Josh Fiallo
    Breaking News Reporter

    Updated Oct. 19 2024 3:38AM EDT / Published Oct. 18 2024 3:04PM EDT

    A betting market that is being touted by Donald Trump’s supporters as proof that he will win the election has been manipulated by multi-million dollar wagers to make him appear certain of victory, experts are warning.

    Polymarket has become a viral phenomenon for showing high “percentage chances” of Trump winning, leading to it being widely quoted on X and elsewhere to show that a race that polls suggest is deadlocked is in fact extremely likely to go his way.

    At the time of writing, Polymarket says Trump has a 61.9 percent chance of beating Vice President Kamala Harris.

    Among those talking it up is Elon Musk, who has claimed the online market is more accurate than political polls, and boosted it on his X account. Another is Joe Kernen, the conservative-leaning CNBC Squawk Box co-host, who has repeatedly referenced it on air and on X.

    The site is funded by the GOP mega-donor Peter Thiel, a close friend of Musk.

    A whopping $30 million—enough to significantly increase the likelihood Polymarket tells its users Trump has of winning—has been pumped into Polymarket this fall from a quartet of accounts. Experts believe they may be controlled by the same person, The Wall Street Journal reported.

    Polymarket works by letting people use crypto currencies to bet anonymously on world events. Like any conventional betting system, the more money goes into one outcome, the higher the percentage the site will predict of that outcome happening—meaning that putting huge amounts of money into gambling on a Trump victory will push up the site’s percentage chance of a Republican win on election day.

    The multi-million dollar wagers identified by The Wall Street Journal—placed by the users Fredi9999, Theo4, PrincessCaro, and Michie—were reportedly all in favor of a Trump win on Election Day, or iterations of it, like Trump winning Pennsylvania or the popular vote. Funds for the wagers were reportedly placed using Kraken, a U.S.-based crypto exchange.

    The wagers appear to have drastically moved Polymarket’s general election odds in Trump’s favor. Kamala Harris had a 52.3 percent chance of winning the election a month ago, but was given just a 38.2 percent chance of winning on Friday morning.

    Christopher Gerlacher, a political analyst for Prediction News who studies market trends, told the Daily Beast that “Polymarket’s spike was almost certainly a case of market manipulation.” He added that one of the mystery user’s accounts, Fredi9999, has more than twice as much money on Trump as the next highest gambler.

    As Gerlacher notes, Polymarket’s odds shift doesn’t align with most political polls, which still show Trump, 78, and Harris, who turns 60 on Sunday, still neck-and-neck.

    Yet, conservatives have latched onto the new Polymarket odds as supposed proof that Trump is pulling away and that pollsters are, like many were in 2016, again wrong about Trump’s true popularity. Gerlacher said it’s important that people realize that market odds—while sometimes in close alignment with polls—are still separate from polls, as was recently explained by the industry substack Manifold Markets.

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    This is one of the most damning things about Trump... the MAJORITY of people who worked with him say he's unfit to serve as the next president.
     
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    Cut him a break - he is 80 years old. Let Grandpa sleep.
     
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    ok. You think poly markets is rigged. Now go explain literally every other betting site that has Trump up.

    Pro tip: the media lies to you. They write articles with a) what rationalizes their preferred position and b) they will write articles because they think people want to read their position. Like you. You don’t want to believe poly markets so now you can justify to yourself how your preexisting mental model is still accurate.
     
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    He didn't show up for any the republican debates either.
     
  19. basso

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    sad.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    There are definitely cases where he is treated unfairly. There are as many or more where he gets an unfair pass. If Kamala went around saying the "black lady should win," It would get way more attention than Trump saying the white guy should win.

    If Kamala did or said half the things Trump has, it would get exponentially more coverage and negative attention than when Trump's action and words.

    Media does what they do for clicks, ratings, money, and viewers. It is almost never for one party except as a byproduct of chasing those other things.
     

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