My only advice would be to keep the ultra positivity and subjective player rankings focused in the Jalen room. When you venture out to the other "player only" threads it encroaches on each factions safe space and tends to create more animosity than necessary. Have fun!
I agree with this post, but I saw your post saying Jalen deserves the max right now and I don't agree with that. I don't fault you for being optimistic but I'm not ready to go there yet. Maybe in 20 games or so.
Thank you and I'm really glad to have posters like you around. I'm completely serious about that. I’ll do my best to avoid any animosity.
I don't think the texans version of VC would engage with a bot like this, bring texans VC to this forum!
You think someone went through the trouble of writing the script for a CFans bot just to sh!tpost? I have to applaud the dedication if so! There are not many extremists in the Texan room, but there really havent been many Texan fans willing to endure the last two decades of futility and still keep a rosy demeanor. Expectations tend to skew perspective plus it seems like the Texan board just has less insecurity overall that leads directly back to time investment in subjective team building and "what I would do" type scenarios that come along with a rebuild. Rockets fans are more spicy in that regard because we have a history. We have a lineage of great players and up to the Harden trade we were always a contender.
Yeah, at this point a few teams have to be willing to offer max deals - no way they would sign for anything less at this point.
Sengun is getting a max contract from the Rockets; it's just a matter of when. His growth the last two years has been phenomenal. Jalen must have a great season, which he has never come close to doing. One month isn't enough. He has to stop being an unpredictable yo yo. Hopefully that happens.
Yeah I agree with this 100% tbh. I think the signs are very positive, but Jalen's got to put up now, or settle for a lesser contract. Sengun doesn't need to prove himself after last season, he's earned his max extension for a big man based on his production. How shocking, that's 2 of the biggest "Jalen stans" both saying it, it's almost like the bullshit narratives they love to spin might not even be true!
That's the bit that actually makes me question if it is a bot, is it/he/them/app just searching who on the forum talks most about Jalen? Bobby's obviously WAYYY up at the top of that list because Jalen lives completely in his mind, which makes it funny if that really is a bot.
I think if Jalen or Alperen wants a max deal, they should have to bet on themselves. I would give them max money with team options beginning in the 3rd year or a deal at 30-35 a year without the annual bonuses. If they feel they deserve a full max deal, they can find it in free agency and then we can decide if we want to match it. In my opinion, a player should be at top 20 player, or at the very least an All-Star to deserve 5 years guaranteed at 25% of Cap space. Most players who are the best on their team are probably worth more like 20% of the cap space which makes a huge difference especially when you have so many guys you want to keep. I believe at least the 75% of teams that have signed 2021 draft picks to max extensions will be regretting it in a couple of years and their contracts will be untradeable. Out of Cade, Mobley, Barnes, and Franz I think even Barnes may struggle to meet Max player level productivity.
I'd actually be happy maxing Sengun before the extension deadline, I get the whole cap hold flexibility stuff but we saw for years how treating players as numbers in a salary sheet and "assets" tended to make players feel in the Morey years - he's earned his money tbh. Jalen I think we just need consistency, I couldn't give a flying **** about "TS%" if that was the be all and end all stat people think it is then Reggie Miller would be one of the goats (16th all time) and MJ would be a scrub (131st all time) and we all know that's just not true despite them playing in the same era. What's more important for me is can he maintain a high scoring level on somewhat solid efficiency whilst maintaining the energy on defense and doing what he did in March where even if his shot doesn't fall he continues to make the smart play and contribute everywhere else. In terms of numbers, I'd be happy with Ant-man like efficiency - that's a max player at his position. So we're talking 22-23 production when Ant got his extension with the Wolves - 24ppg, 45%fg 36%3p - that's a max player.
Only one guy has the ball at a time in the NBA. In no other sport does a single star player matter more. The max salary structure is in place to create an artificial ceiling on a player's salary under an artificial cap on team salary - with no max, star players would easily make 100+ mil per season. They mean that much to their team.
I guess depth would be the future. It is on Stone to figure how to keep that depth while still maximizing the talent of as many star prospects as he could.
Easy for me to say but both should bet on themselves. That 5/224 that the other ‘21 guys got (which sounds like the Rockets aren’t offering…how much less, who knows?)
