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Politics: Win at all costs?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Oct 17, 2024.

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Do the Ends justify the Means

  1. Just Win at all Costs - somethings are too important

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  2. Better to lose than to lose one's honor

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  3. As long as it's not against the law - anything goes.

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  4. I Courteously abstain

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  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    We all believe what we believe
    We have strong opinions on it

    BUT
    I want to know.
    Does winning excuse tactics? What are your limits?

    If you side wins but they had to lie, cheat and steal to do it . . .are you ok with that?
    This is not unlike abortion activist that are ok with killing a few doctors to save millions of babies
    Are you with the promotion of "bad people" to get your goals
    The ends justifies the means?
     
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  2. thegary

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    The answer, my friend, is blowing in the spin
     
  3. ROCKSS

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    I am used to the "fibs" but this year maga has taken it to a whole new level, it's just a blatant lie and yet the entire party and its followers recite it over and over that half the country thinks it's true, but that's the maga plan, throw so much BS against the wall and some will stick and some wont. There still peddling the big lie about Springfield OH. I am not sure we can get expect in the future, but something has to be done about this. Do we really want the person in charge of the greatest country in the world to be a habitual liar and crook.
     
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  4. Rocket River

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    So what would you accept to prevent him from coming to power?
    Would you be ok with the Democrats doing the same thing to win . . . fighting fire with fire sort of thing?
    If they win by doing worse . .. . . .would that be ok because its the greater good

    Rocket River
     
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    I’m abstaining because like many things there aren’t always clear cut answers.

    If I had to draw a limit it would be to respect the principles of Constitution. For example I voted and donated to Hillary Clinton in 2016. Even then I felt Trump was a threat. If Clinton though had done what Trump did in 2020 (put forward false electors, try to get the VP to unconstitutionally reject legitimate electors, have supporters march on the Capitol to pressure the VP and Congress) I would’ve been against it.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    I understand. I think the same.
    However, there are some times when one has to be the anti-hero
    I think a lot of folx feel like they are the PUNISHER
    They believe that heroes should be honorable etc. . . they think they want to be Batman with a No Kill Rule
    Then they feel like he should have killed the Joker long time ago

    Rocket River
     

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