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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Scarface281

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    Now that's pretty ****ed up. Court system can suck for fathers.
     
  2. Kemahkeith

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    Yes and no.
    My lawyer had her agree to me getting 50% of her NY State employee retirement for the 17 years we were married.
    So, I have that extra to look forward to in 8 years.

    I will do much better in retirement than my working career.
    Thats why I gave up the smokes.
     
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  3. Xopher

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    Here is the entire answer, clown.

     
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  4. Rileydog

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    Actually, that is entirely false because Biden cannot speak coherently. Under no scenario is Biden a viable candidate with his cognitive decline. You are crazy, if not stupid, if you think otherwise.


    As the economy and the plight of middle class America, ok let’s have a real discussion. Answer me this:

    - how much influence does ANY American president have on the domestic production of oil and gas vis a vis the decisionmaking of the supermajors to commit their capital to stock buybacks instead of drill baby drill? ( Recognizing of course that current domestic production is at an all time high.)

    - does ANY American president have the real ability to increase refining capacity in the US, nevermind cause an oil company to commit resources needed to build a refinery?

    - what is the extent of an American president’s ability to influence inflation in a global economy, particularly relative to say the federal reserve?

    What we have is an intellectually dishonest Republican party that has done an effective job of “flooding the zone” with bullsh-t, and most of middle America can’t wade through it.

    As for the working class and middle America, it remains amazing to me that anybody in these cohorts think that Trump or the Republican Party gives two sh-ts about them. Just follow the money,

    The reason that working class and middle class people support Trump is because of race and identity politics. If you make your average person angry at the other side, you can sell them anything. Politics is a lot like a jury trial. The average juror ain’t that smart. Find a theme that goes to their gut. If you succeed, their findings of fact will follow, regardless of the actual facts.
     
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  5. droxford

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    Hey! she actually answered the question! I think she'd do better with moderates if she's just omit the minute-and-a-half of word salad.

    Unfortunately, her plan to assist new home buyers on their down payment would plunge the US into another housing crisis similar to the one from 2008.
    ...so I wonder which is worse.. "Vote for me because I'm not Donald Trump" or "vote for me, even though my policies will damage the country"

    Thanks for posting that video, turd.
     
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  6. hitman1900

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    Love the narrative of "word salad" when you have Trump as the republican nominee. The irony of it all. If the republicans ran anyone else, they would have won this election easily but they stuck with the dumbest nominee of all.
     
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  7. B-Bob

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    [​IMG]

    Now now. Turd is really escalating things beyond clown. ;)
     
  8. droxford

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    Meh... Kamala has her word salad and lies.
    Trump has his boisterous exaggerations and lies.

    I wouldn't say Trump is the dumbest nominee, but I would have liked to have seen a different candidate from the R party.
     
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  9. El_Conquistador

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    Why is Kamala COLLAPSING in the polls? She is now down big in Michigan and Wisconsin according to today's Quinnipiac poll, a pollster that has historically heavily favored Democrat candidates.

    Is the shine wearing off? Is the FEMA incompetence taking a toll? Was is Trump's courageous return to Butler, PA?

    What is causing her to go down and suck this much?
     
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  10. Fyreball

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    It's pretty clear that by targeting first-time home buyers with the subsidy, as well as giving builders tax incentives to sell to first-time buyers, the large scale implications you're laying out would not play out. By targeting first-time buyers, it limits the scope of the subsidy which then mitigates the negative impacts across the entire industry. You can also time the subsidies to line up with supply, so you aren't flooding the market with too much demand.
     
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  11. droxford

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    BUT, the incentive that she proposes places homebuyers in a position of purchasing homes that they ultimately cannot afford, which will result in mass-defaulting on mortgages and all of the impacts and consequences that result, similarly to what happened in 2008.
     
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    Combination of lackluster FEMA, quadruple illegal immigration numbers when the administration initially pandered to the AOC type anti-border crowd then eventually realized the “look away and allow” border control process was a disaster and it’s effect on citizens, a seemingly greater concern for throwing multi millions of money to Lebanon while thousands have died and are suffering in the East Tennessee, West North Carolina area, and then, to top it all off the crime and the even worse now infamous CBS cover up that is now spreading…
     
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    LOL.............Garbage you say, trying to overturn an election while storming the capital to hang MP, so maga of you. I think I will pick someone who is not a convicted rapist, is putin`s b**** and loved him some Kim Jong. You maga sheep fall for a snake oil salesman and then ask for more. Think for yourself
     
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  14. Fyreball

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    There's an argument to be made for that, for sure. But there are also arguments that show that this subsidy, in conjunction with the IRA, dropping interest rates, and a strong job market through things like the CHIPS Act and a robust Infrastructure bill would actually create a flourishing housing market. One thing I will say is opening up federally protected land to fuel supply, as well as vague allusions to "bringing housings costs down" is not a platform, and does nothing to address the ACTUAL housing crisis we have currently due to corporate greed and a lack of supply. For instance, in Houston alone we have a 5 year shortage of deliverable lots, and the developer incentives that Kamala is proposing would go a long way towards addressing that.
     
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    "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart —you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune —you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right — who would have thought?), but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”
     
  16. droxford

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    yup. That's some Trump babbling from a campaign speech in 2016.
    However, he doesn't answer the majority of direct questions with word salad.
     
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  17. droxford

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    In a thriving economy, I might agree with you. But the economy has struggled mightily under the Biden administration and there's many indications that it would continue to struggle (if not worsen) under the Harris administration. A struggling economy would create a situation where more people en masse would be defaulting on mortgages.

    .. (and I applaud your use of rational discussion)
     
  18. SamFisher

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    Honestly you might be the biggest idiot portrayal here - just utterly, entirely ignorant of the entire world around you.

    Not only do we have the best economy - in the entire world since the pandemic - but we probably have the best 4 year period in American history.

    There's not a single macroeconomic metric that isn't elite right now - it must hurt you very much for me to post this, go back to whining about which bathrooms kids use clown.
     
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  19. droxford

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    You sound like Trump five years ago.

    ... turd.
     
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    If I were only talking about the candidates I could. But I'm restricting it to the actual evidence provided by Trump's own team in sworn testimony and released messages that took place between Trump, and his staff. Again, you are free to not discuss it. But it makes little to no sense to act like it is all made up by the other side.

    It makes it seem like you aren't aware of the facts regarding Trump's plans. There is no requirement for you to have knowledge or an interest. But if you aren't, you might not want to pretend that everyone else who actually is concerned about the security of our election and democracy are just making things up.
     

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