He's shot 500 more threes than Tari because Tari has barely played, don't be like this, that's the truth of it. And despite the massive difference in attempts between them is what? 1%? Tari shot 50 threes last year, that's not even large enough of a sample size to make much of and you can't put Jabari having more minutes than Tari against him, better players play more minutes. I think Tari is becoming overrated here because people like the idea of him because he still feels like a new and fresh player because we barely see him play. But I remember the tunnel vision and the smoked layups and the decision making, he too has a lot to work on.
I love Jabari but the Jazz game was not a good look at all. He better show some pep in his step against OKC. It's just one game but it sure seems like Amen and Cam vaulted forward and left him behind. He could be in trouble if Tari takes a big step.
Amen yes, Whitmore no IMO. Whitmore is great on offense but he lacks the defense and court awareness Jabari has. Jabari is a lot less flashy but right now when it comes to actually winning games he is better than Whitmore IMO. His main issue is the role player ceiling might be there for him which tbh isnt that bad if it is what it is. Every team needs role players. Tari we will see. I havent seen him play since the Memphis game where he played outta his mind.
I'm definitely not a Cam fan, but when his 3-point shot is deadly, he makes a very positive impact on the team. He'll never be a cerebral player on either end, which limits his upside. Get ready for the "he's only 19 years-old" excuse to become "he's only 20 years-old". For some here, it's Cam's get out of jail card for any flaw.
Above average roleplayer every 1 out 3 games is his ceiling. Not a bad niche. Obviously disappointing for a #3 pick, but it is what it is.
Tari has his weaknesses, but he isn't passive, unlike Jabari. I'm surprised, because he is the best fit with Sengun.
Well to be fair we have had that excuse for Jalen too, and at least Cam is better than Jalen at their respective age.
He is still the best fit with Sengun, provides solid defense and spacing even if he is passive. The only thing he is doing is playing his way out of a bag but otherwise he still fits on this team.
Stop making stuff up. Tari played all 82 games in his rookie season. You can't say "he never plays" like it's a trend when it's literally 1 injury.
Jabari plays basketball like a robot, for good and for bad. Sometimes he reminds me of Shane Battier. I wish he’d put himself in the mix more on both ends. Help more on defense, cut more on offense. I can’t believe some of you were saying that a cardboard C with Jabari would be effective. No. Whoever plays next to Jabari needs to be incredibly dynamic, because Jabari is a robot.
I actually think that's a little bit of a slight to Battier. Shane came into every game knowing all the tendencies and had such a focus on the details it gave him an edge even when he was totally outmatched skill-wise on paper. Jabari doesn't seem to have that level of smarts about his game sadly. I think he just is what he is, he's not got the mentality of a lead-player on the team. I could see us keeping him around long term on an affordable deal if nobody overpays him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he loses his starting spot in the next couple years.
it's not that Jabari is ok being a role player. He just has no choice. He's extremely limited and has always been. I never understood how or why people would place him above Jalen as far as who's more valuable.
I get the concerns with Smith, but if our core guys are Green/Amen/Sengun, Smith is a fantastic pairing.
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I was just simply going by the numbers that you provided regarding Wemby and Holmgren (thanks for that BTW), and responding to the conclusion that Smith struggled against Holmgren more than Sengun or Brooks. Of course, there are many other factors in play, including ppp, but just on a per minute basis, it looked to me like Holmgren scored fewer points on average against Smith. As for whether OKC fared better as a team when Smith covered Holmgren vs. others, I can't say just with the numbers in your original post. Yes, the Thunder scored 91 team points when Smith was on Holmgren, while 50 team points when Sengun was in there. But much like there is a difference in the matchup minutes (17:51 to 7:18), there's probably a difference in the number of total court minutes, as well. (Plus, Smith played against Holmgren in one more game.) Anyways, I'm just quibbling about something trivial, and TBH probably defending Smith a little as it looks like he's the early favorite to be this year's scapegoat.
