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[Feigen] Former Coach Silas will coach Team US for 2 games

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by daywalker02, Oct 3, 2024.

  1. a time to chill

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    It's easy to understand what they were doing, tanking by giving a bunch of recent draft picks and fringe NBA players a bunch of undeserved minutes. Silas did not have the same influence over the roster that Ime has nor did he have vets to lean on. Ime had the luxury of benching Green for a vet like Aaron Holiday while Silas' next best option was Josh Christopher/Garrison Mathews/Daishen Nix. Not sure how you're supposed to have accountability when you have a roster so devoid of talent.

    I'm not saying Silas is a great coach. I'm saying we don't know how good he is because the roster was so bad. They had no interest in being good those years since they wanted high draft picks, so it's hard to properly evaluate anyone in that environment. At the end of the day, all that matters is wins and losses. There's no such thing as 'tanking gracefully.' When you win, you can't argue with the methods of the coaching staff, but when the losses mount up there will always be something to criticize.

    I'm glad we got Ime, but I'm pretty sure most Rockets fans would've turned on him as well if he had to coach that same roster Silas had to deal with.
     
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  2. Nook

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    We disagree - we can tell how bad Silas was as a coach. No one expected him to win 35 games. However, it was reasonable to expect him to develop young players, to hold them accountable and instill good habits and he didn't do any of those things.
     
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    Over two games? We already know that he is a solid NBA assistant, but he isn't an NBA head coach.
     
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    Silas was brought in to be a disposable coach during the tanking years and he was saddled with a draft bust early on that made things worse... so i have SOME sympathy, but he was also a terrible coach and that's on him ultimately.
     
  5. a time to chill

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    That's not what I recall. I remember folks like JT Gatlin pondering why we weren't on the same level as the Thunder.



    I hope people don't turn on Udoka this year when we're 42-40 and miss the play-in.
     
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  6. Nook

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    I don't care what JT Gatlin says - I don't doubt you that there were fans that wanted wins. However, most rational people wanted to see player development and teaching the young players structure and good habits. That did not happen. There were separate rules for separate players. There was one set of rules Silas had and another one the GM had.

    The last straw for my personally was when I was told that Silas took credit for working on film with Green - when it was Weaver that did all the work with Green, and Weaver who broke down film.

    As for Udoka - he isn't perfect. I don't believe that he has really established how he is going to run his team from an X's and O's standpoint. However, he has developed a culture of accountability for the most part and the young players have improved.
     
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    If there is a more blatant example of 'it's not what you know, it's who you know', I'd love to see it.
     
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    Coach player bromance developing.

     
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    harden & westbrook requested to be traded IMMEDIATELY after the silas hiring. that should have been our canary in the coal mine about this fool’s coaching. he ended up being so all time clueless he still had that dumbass smile going all the way till the end even after it became clear the owner & GM had simply been using him all those seasons as the ultimate tank general
     
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    U know that from what, a tanking team rebuilding on the fly?
     
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    Silas was obviously inept.

    On one hand, yes we accomplished the tank. On the other hand, we will never know how much damage was done on the player development/accountability side of things.

    If we end up not extending Green and then he blows up (elsewhere) it would likely be an example of this.
     
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    Good luck to team USA for them games. Imagine going with the guy who ran with having Bruno Fernando as a lob threat for KPJ as a core strategy instead of Jalen Green as a lob threat for Alperen Sengun?..
     
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    JT Gatlin is not a top tier pundit. Did you watch media day? Dude came persistently with the worst questions in the room, he doesn't come across like a credible journalist as much as a gossip columnist pretending to be a credible sports journalist.
     
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    The truth he is almost as old as Morey and Stone and never had a defining NBA moment.

    Teams were not lining up to give him a head coaching gig.

    Paul Silas granted him an entrance to the league but nothing much happened thereafter.

    This was as much a joke as the McHale hire or the Royce White draft pick.

     
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    He also did major damage to the Rockets' organization rep, players just straight up did not want to be drafted here. We had to overpay for FVV and Brooks just to get them to come. Sil@ss is basically a franchise destroyer all by himself
     
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    I suspect even that is true. He is said to be a very nice guy, but based on behavior, I see an uncanny person with zero indication of niceness. I can't tell a single thing he was good at as a head coach. I don't see any reason to believe he is a good assistant coach.
     
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    From the fact it took him 20 years to get a HC job. From the fact Carlisle went to bat really hard for another assistant on his staff and not Silas.

    From watching him for 3 years as a head coaching and seeing how ill equipped he was for the job.

    He is an assistant coach - and a very good when given the right level of responsibility and with a strong Head Coach.

    Nothing wrong with being a good assistant but bad HC. Ron Adams and Elston Turner are accomplished assistants but not HC’s.

    If you cannot see the difference between Udoka and Silas - and how they lead, develop and hold players accountable… then I think we just don’t agree on what a good head coach is.
     
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  18. Nook

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    As for being a good person - he screwed over Weaver and Lucas wasn’t happy with him. So idk, sometimes polite is mistaken for being a good person.

    As for being a good assistant - he is considered a good skills coach. He has received some praise from former players and head coaches for that - but that’s as far as it goes.

    I remember him getting a lot of praise for running the Mavericks offense - that was laughed at around the league because everyone knew Silas didn’t fart without Carlisle’s approval.
     
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    Him being a assistant coach for years is irrelevant. Second, he was unknowingly thrown into a instant tank when his 2 superstars unexpectedly wanted out. The Spurs have sucked it up for 2-3 consecutive seasons but are we ready to say Pop's not a NBA coach? How ill equipped was Pop having Victor and still at the bottom of standings? Somehow Silas is judged different but the results were the exact same lol
     

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