SOFs waltzing in flags flying like their boy doesnt have every single team in the NBA WISH him to shoot or gets hunted on defense is prime Lord of the Flies sht LOL
He definitely should have come off the bench his rookie year. It would have been fun to watch lightning in a bottle and it would have capped his inefficient reps.
They should be so lucky that everyone would be me. What it really comes down to is that they have a pseudo religious devotion to the draft bust and they understandably throw tantrums any time they see infidels or apostates who don't go along with their narrative. When you stop seeing them as rational adults and start seeing them as weirdo cultists, their behavior makes a lot more sense. The good news is that barring a miraculous turnaround, we might finally be rid of at least the worst among them a few months from now... and the rest of them will change their ways and pretend they were never mindless cultists in the first place.
Believe me when I say NO ONE wants to be you. You are the most obnoxious poster in the history of this forum.
I said it and will say it again, these grownups care too much about scorers and scoring and too little about fundamentals. It is really not that surprising and they pretend it ain't that way on surface. Wasn't always that way with the Dream, Scola etc. And I rather take names like Cocaine Curry over Jaters (what an unoriginal name)
Everybody should put btg on Ignore and the discussions would be much more meaningful. I don't know why people still try to argue with him. BTW, it's a myth that Jalen only plays well without Sengun. He started to play well before Sengun went down with injury. The narrative conveniently ignores that fact. In fact, I could flip the narrative and say that if Jalen could hit his 3s more consistently, Sengun would have more space to operate inside. But I won't go there either because blaming the teammates for a player's shortcomings is the thing that makes the discussions ugly. Would it be better if Sengun could shoot from outside? Of course. But even without the outside shot, the Green-Sengun tandem can still be quite potent.
It's the kind of flash over substance that I think we'd all excuse teenagers for being super into but it's odd to see what likely are adults doing the same. You have the same people who will discount any metric that shows their guy in a bad light... which is basically all of them, saying it's not well trusted in analytics crowds.... only to immediately tout points per game as proof their guy is amazing. Honestly in a lot of ways they are worse than the Lin fans were. I knew a few Lin fans that were cool.
I think the main factor that helped green is the faster pace, as the season went on, not Sengun in or out. And actually him playing well before Sengun was out, is much more promising than the 'streak' period, which comes with a lot of caveats that has been discussed to death here and not sustainable anyway.
The numbers don't really support that interpretation. He was bad both before and after the brief shooting streak. What helped Jalen more than anything was when his 3's were falling. When opposing teams had to respect his shot, it opened everything else up for him. Honestly that's potentially a good thing because it means if he ever learns to shoot a basketball, it could allow him to reach his upside. The downside is that if he can't learn to shoot a basketball, it's unlikely anything will help him.
My observation is that he was playing better overall, more maturity in the game, not particularly talking about shooting, later in the season, just my eye test. I am looking for signs of improvement as a result of doing planned work. I thought I saw stuff there. And I thought faster pace made it easier for him. He can be an average shooter and still be a very good nba player. But yes, he has to be at least average.
Lin was a tad like Yao that a lot of his fans were Asians that know a thing about basketball and wanted to see a player of Asian descent just flat out dominate and score. I am guilty of that and I thought he was at least going to maintain it over a season or two, well, did not happen. I wasn't that interested in Jerry the human as I was interested in Yao the human because he was very unique like a monk and an ambassador in the same flesh.
Fair enough, I can't really argue a person's eye test, it's possible that you saw improvement that just didn't show up on paper. For me, I only trust my eye test to the extent that it says roughly what the numbers say is happening. Let's hope you're right and that it'll start translating to good performances
I am not sure what you are asking. All I am saying, I saw signs of improvement later in the season. It doesn't change how he played or scored in April or march. Whether or not these signs will amount to something more sustainable remains to be seen. It is just a reason to be hopeful on my part. I am stressing this as a poster who is not very much impressed by 'the streak'. Streaks come and go, improvement is there forever. And the streak came in particularly unusual conditions, which makes it less dependable for me.
"What happened in April huhhhhhhh" ----- https://www.si.com/nba/rockets/houston-rockets-jalen-green-resiliency-leads-late-season-surge Jaters: "I just dont get why you guys keep supporting this scrub." Let Udoka tell them:
LOL try again for April 8.6 3pt attempts per game at 29% more than his season's 7.4 3pt attempts and worse than 33.2%
Your problems with society is not because of the color of your skin like you claimed to me couple of months ago. It is because you're a dumb azz!
We discussed this recently and there was no appreciable increase in pace. The difference in pace between with and without Sengun was .04 possessions per game. Literally negligible. That's 4/100.
I wasn't talking about Sengun vs no Sengun. I was referring to the fact that rockets have been increasing their pace over the whole season. It looks like the pace did not change after Sengun went down(which I will explain shortly), but I think it is irrelevant, whatever happened is NOT because Sengun went down, but rather how they planned to play. Let's dive into the numbers. Rockets pace numbers (pace, rank, fastest team pace): November: 96.65 , 26th, 104.61 December: 99.47, 19th, 104.36 January: 100.59, 9th, 103 Feb: 101.75, 8th, 105.21 March: 99.87, 6th, 100.75 April(8 games): 99.64, 11th, 102.19 Rockets have increased their pace every single month till march. In march they went down a little bit, but if you look at their rank and the maximum paced team, you can see that in march the whole league played slower than all previous months. And since pace is a function of two teams, it would pull down rockets pace too. Which is why their rank went 2 up despite having slightly less pace. So in march it looks like rockets were still the team pushing the pace up and I am guessing that they were playing similar to February or even a little faster despite the decreased pace number. In april there is a slow down, with a smaller sample and also with playoff hopes lost at some point. So my point is the rockets have been playing faster and faster throughout the season. It is hard to tell if they played faster after Sengun went down. The numbers are close and it is hard to incorporate how much the opponents slowed down. But in my opinion it doesn't matter because even if there was an increase, that was a game plan rather than sengun sitting out being the reason.
