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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. astrosrule

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    hey shaq wasn't THAT bad, he had some solid seasons
     
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  3. astrosrule

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    Jokic is still decent though i know you’re not a fan
     
  4. Verbal Christ

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    Jokic can make a jump shot outside of 10 feet and is a better defender than given credit for. He's THE modern big man whether I like him or not.
     
  5. ApacheWarrior

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    Hopefully, those 3 trainers that went to Turkey
    to work with Sengun, helps his game.

    Shooting 300 three's a day is a start.

    Then the JATERS will see what most of us already
    know. Jalen Green with spacing can be dangerous.

    Something SGA, D Fox, Anthony Edwards, Jamal Murray, haven't had to worry about.

    Their bigs take centers out of the paint. Or
    at least an extra defender out.
     
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  6. astrosrule

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    fox plays with a center who can't shoot outside of 3 feet, ant also plays with a center who can barely even shoot inside of 3 feet and can't catch a pass to save his life. Murray isn't a star so he doesn't belong on the list, SGA did have great spacing though for sure this past season
     
  7. jogo

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    Ah, yes. Jalen's problems are due to Sengun. If only Sengun would play better. He needs to work on his 3 pointer, not Jalen. Right?
     
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    Who are you debating? Check up with mental health professionals about schizophrenia.
     
  9. Tom Bombadillo

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    Jalen Green wasn’t defended all season from three, and nearly shot the same percentage as Alperen on bulk attempts.

    And it is Alperen’s fault… Love to hear Udoka respond to that one. He would slap the **** out of these dudes. :D

    The guy on our team averaging 21-9-5, while being the most scouted and game planned for player on the Rockets by far… Double teamed all damn year, with a 2/1 A2T, as a CENTER. GTFO
     
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  10. fchowd0311

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    Jalen Green was absolutely defended from three. WTF are you talking about?

    Opposing NBA teams know he's volatile from 3. That means they get scared of his three point shots because they know he's capable of kissing 5 in a row or making 5 in a row and basically blowing a game open by himself.

    Sengun doesn't get defended at three point line not even because he's a bad shooter. It's because the dude does triple pump fakes with no one guarding him from the three point line. He just doesn't want to take them and NBA defenders can feel the aura of no confidence in your jump shot to wave off an attempt
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    "Volatile" is apparently the way cultists describe being one of the worst shooters in the entire league....

    Anyone "scared" of Jalen Green shooting ANY shot, shouldn't be in the NBA.
     
  12. ApacheWarrior

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    Kings (5 players with over 2000 minutes)
    Fox --------
    Sabonis 37% (3P%)
    Harrison Barnes 37% (3P%)
    Keegan Murray 41.1% (3P%)
    Kevin Huerta 40.2% (3P%)

    [ ranked #16 as a team in 3-point percentage ]





    T-Wolves (5 players over 2000 minutes and one Naz Reid at 1964 minutes)
    Edwards. -------
    Robert. ----- (use him as good PnR option)
    Jaden McDaniels 34% (3P%)
    Conley 41.6% (3P%)
    KAT 41.6% (3P%)
    Naz Reid 41.4% (3P%)

    [ T-Wolves ranked #3 in 3-point percentage as a team ]. They mix and match to get it
    done so that Edwards can get open lanes to the basket.

    Pick-n-Roll (Roll Man)
    Player...................NBA percentile (23/24 reg season)

    Sabonis........................63.7

    Gobert..........................65.7
    Naz Reid.......................65.2
    KAT...............................90.0
    (decent 3-pt shooters paired with decent roll man allows for Edwards to operate in the lane.)
    Fact

    Sengun.........................50.6
     
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  13. astrosrule

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    Sabonis took 1 attempt a game, he’s a complete zero as a shooter. Rudy never even steps out of the paint, those guys are no different than sengun
     
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    Understood, but Sabonis is a hub of the offense that was destroying teams two years ago.

    Warriors exposed it by not pressing him and packing the paint, allowing him to shoot in
    their playoff series. But not all teams are playoff material and Sabonis still is a threat
    from 3 as he was 37% from 3 two years in a row.

    Fox can fly under the radar and still get open lanes; which you are trying to play dumb
    and give the impression that Fox doesn't get open runs.

    Jaylen Brown gets open shots at the rim because of Tatum and Tatum gets open runs
    at the rim because of Jaylen Brown. Add decent shooters from 3: in Jrue Holiday and
    Dereck White and you gets open rim runs and the most efficient offense in the league.

    KAT plays center as well and you know Gobert doesnt play 48 minutes a game.

    So get the F out of here. You playing both sides just criticizing.

    Easiest thing in the world is to criticize. Doesn't mean you know anything.
     
  15. AlperenSengun

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    This should be a new level in positive interpretation. The opposite teams are thinking 'Oh, that player is very dangerous, he shoots 33% but sometimes he makes 3 in a row, let's focus on him.' Maybe players should start missing shots on purpose, so that they have the surprise element when they make shots, lol.

    Sabonis can make 1 3 every 3rd game, and he is threat :) (let alone that you were not aware that he was taking that few 3s).
     
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    Alperen Sengun is a much better player now and deserves a max extension and Jalen Green doesn't at the moment and needs to prove himself this season. Jalen Green needs to become a more consistent shooter to be a clear 1b option with Sengun because his jump shot is much more important to his game than Sengun's jump shot.


    The claim that NBA defenses never guard Jalen Green threes is incredibly stupid still because again NBA defenses understand his streakiness.
     
  17. AlperenSengun

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    the claim that nba defenses never guard Jalen green is incredibly stupid. But has nothing to do with his streakiness. It is simply because Jalen green is one of our main scoring threats and he would be defended regardless of his streakiness. So your argument is pretty bad too.
     
  18. Corrosion

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    You take away the 27 games that Jalen shot a cumulative .508 from three and what you have left is 55 games which he shot a total of .263 from distance. There's your spacing problem right there.

    But the Jalen OF's will tell you Sengun is the problem, yet he's not in the paint all that much, he spends a lot of time setting picks for Jalen & Fred or DHO actions out top ..... but go ahead and blame Sengun & make a bunch of irrelevant comparisons.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    Honestly, you don't have to take anything away, even with the few good games, even with the absurd 8 game hot streak, Jalen was still one of the absolute worst shooters in the entire league. He's kind of like having a skinny version of Russell Westbrook without the guard skills, defense, or finishing ability.
     
  20. fchowd0311

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    I'm trying to find this Jalen only fan who thinks he doesn't need to improve his shooting consistency.

    Also it isn't about hovering in the paint. It's about driving lanes. Alpi in a pnr situation is not rolling, he's popping out. That is where the spacing issue comes in as Alpi's original defender now essentially is playing drop coverage on Jalen's driving lane and Jalen's primary defender is still on him leaving Alpi wide open at the ft line put to the 3 pt line.

    I suggest you look at some of his scoring plays in the OKC game. Look at the plays where he splits the trap and has all this space to work with until he reaches the rim.

    That is a small problem. It isn't a problem that is not fixable. It isn't a problem that suggests "Alpi is the main reason for Green's inefficiency". The main reason Eason for Green's inefficiency himself.

    Can you stop putting words in people's mouths? Or is drama part of the allure for you to post here so you have to create extreme strawmans to attack "Jalen only fans".
     

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