He had several good games during that streak but he wasn't as great as some make him out to have been. All you have to do is look at the numbers. There were other players who played well and had a greater impact in some of them. the two games against Washington, the OKC game, the first Portland game and the first two against Utah he was very good .... Against Sacramento & San Antonio (games 2 & 3 of the streak) he was awful. Then there's the 7 games after the streak where he wasn't good at all. If you look at raw scoring numbers, sure ..... but averaging less than a point per possession in most of them, I can't call that great play.
Man, happy to agree to disagree there. Not going to nitpick at the longest winning streak in the NBA. Even if it were the 3rd longest streak it would be impressive. There's no one disputing that Jalen was the leader of that streak, you can go back and watch the player post game interviews. Such a stretch. That's an objectively impressive month regardless of these factors. 11 game winning streaks happened to two teams last season. Many teams had easy months and better rosters and players going on hot streaks. It shouldn't be this hard to give credit to your own team.
No one ever cared if he was great every single game, all we care about is that he's the leader of an 11-game winning streak.
That's been the entire narrative since .... that he was so great that entire month. The reality is that he had 7 very good games during that streak. I'm not giving him any credit for "leading the way" in the games he was not remotely productive in. What he did lead them to was 6 losses in 7 games to follow up that winning streak - he was terrible in literally all of them.
I keep coming back to this thread to see if there's something different, but the banter seems like a microcosm of our current political debate. I'll check back after the preseason starts.
If he wasn't playing well... how's he still "the leader"? Just be honest, you're desperate to make it seem like more than just an 8 game hot shooting streak so in order to do so you'll give him complete credit for what others on the team did so you can try to add 3 more games to the fluke 8 game hot shooting streak. It's transparent. If you guys would just stop being so dishonest, the conversation would be a lot more productive.
Lot of pages for something so simple. Just let him play out the year then go into restricted free agency. If teams are throwing piles of money at him next summer that means he was great and we can match. We don't have to debate how good he is - the market will decide for us.
You say that's simple, but that's a point of contention, do you waste the entire season on him and then have him leave for nothing, or do you look to find a sucker to take him off your hands and MAYBE get something back while freeing up starting minutes for more deserving prospects? If the trade scenario is viable, how many games do you give Jalen to earn his spot on the team before making the decision one way or the other? It's actually a pretty complicated situation....especially with his cult of weirdos continuing to lie about the level of his past performances.
Coming from a guy who can't distinguish between a iso possession and a pnr possession. You can use numbers to have reductive form. If analysis. You can say "20 shots to get 26 pts" and ignore all other aspects of the game and that would be reductive not "nuanced analysis". Again, you can sum up Jalen's impacr in a 15 game stretch by just looking at how the team did during a 13-2 stretch during the 12 minutes Jalen Green rested per game where there was a -6 pt differential per game during that 13-2 stretch. For 12 minutes a night when Green was resting the Rockets were one of the worst teams in the NBA and still were 13-2 which is MVP level impact and why analysts were saying he played like a top 5 MVP candidate for a 15 game stretch
You are only allowed to use numbers that make Jalen look good....which basically means posting raw scoring totals out of context and pretending he's one of the greatest prospects in the history of the sport.
This forum is taking to the next level of insanity! Still though, I hope JG will be successful…not at the expense of other players but with them…
The narrative has been that his averages were amazing during that streak and he was the leader of it. Just like when anyone leads a streak. No one said he was offensively efficient in every single game of that streak. I'm sorry I really feel like you're reaching so hard to try to convince me that the media, GM, coach and players are all wrong for seeing him as the leader of that streak. This was a widely recognized excellent achievement. I get it. For you it's really really really important that during that streak Sengun played the first two games and Jalen wasn't a highly efficient scorer in every single game. No one's disagreeing that those things are technically true.
He was doubled at half court his last 7 games. He passed the ball & his teammates couldn't do anything. He did his job & was not terrible. Facts are important
