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Tyreek Hill stop video released

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AleksandarN, Sep 9, 2024.

  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Strong. Not strong. They're dumb. Low IQ. Tattoos on their eyelids, the **** else job do they qualify for, Hot Topic cashier?

    The few smart ones aren't on the streets pulling people over.

    GOOD LUCK
     
  2. JHarden713

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    Yes, plenty of white people get killed by the police every single day, but the media doesn't talk about that, they don't even talk about when a black officer kills a black man, it only matters when a white officer kills a black man. Anyhow 90% of those are justified regardless of race, and most of those could of been prevented if the people would act like they're supposed to in those interactions.
     
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  3. the shark

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    "Wasn't disrespectful"??

    You're actually right, "the video is clear cut" (as is the audio) and there isn't "anything to debate".

    When you or anybody else (and in this case Tyreke) say to a cop, "what are you going to do about it" 999 out of a 1,000 times You're going to pulled out of your car and thrown to ground and cuffed. END.OF.STORY!!!

    It's a free world and you can say whatever you want but there's also something called consequences.
     
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  4. HTM

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    People in here are unbelievable.

    They encourage/approve of people being disrespectful/disobedient/non-compliant with public servants just trying to perform the mandate the public has given them to help regulate a well ordered society.

    Our society would be an absolute dump if we allowed assholes like Hill to go on the way he did. You would hope Hill would learn a lesson but people like those in here will tell him he's a victim and further encourage his poor behavior instead of telling him, "Wake up *******, roll down your window before the cop gets there, follow his directives, answer his questions respectfully and you'll be fine."

    "Don't tell me what to do LEO, I do what I want"

    "Don't tell me what to do Teacher, I do what I want"

    "Don't tell me what General, I do what I want"

    "Don't tell me what to do Judge, I do what I want"

    But people are in here defending the entitled/boorish/disrespectful instigators. lmao.

    Show respect, receive respect, come correct and you'll be fine 99.99% of the time in these types of situations.
     
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    The General analogy really is a mask off moment.

    We should never even comparing the authoritarian structure of the military with a public service force for civilians. The military is authoritarian by design. It is part of the actual job requirement when you enlist or become an officer to show fidelity and respect towards those in higher positions.
     
  6. HTM

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    So use the three other examples then - or I guess you don't feel like you can address those so you got for one you perceive to be low hanging fruit.

    Classic weakness.
     
  7. JHarden713

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    You can analyze it as you wish my brother. Yes I strongly believe that most of the police force are not crooks. They're doing the job that most of wouldn't do (especially for the pay of like 40-50k starting). In hick towns where everyone knows everyone its probably not a big deal, but in the big cities where most of us live, yea it ain't easy. Pulling up to random people not knowing how its gonna do, n on top of that you decide to be a total dick, well if it gets you, so be it, you've made your bed. There was a case about 15 years ago in Houston where a police officer pulled someone over n as he was walking up to his car, the dude just shot him dead through the window.
     
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  8. the shark

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    Another thing to point out.

    If you're concerned that most cops are dirty and wondering if a cop who pulls you over has an agenda and could be a corrupt cop with an itchy finger then why in the world would you be such a dumb F@#k and tell the cop "not to knock on your window like that" from the start but even more importantly say to him "what are you going to do about it"??

    If I were to guess Tyreke is a dude who hasn't had many people tell him no over the years because he's an athlete and now a filthy rich athlete and he thinks he's above authority and doesn't like to be told what to do even when he's wrong (and I'm sure he always thinks he's right). Also doesn't this cat have like 10 kids from like ten different women? So he's obviously NOT the sharpest tool in the shed.
     
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    The vast majority of humans in America pucker up their butts the moment they see a squad car near them while driving because we live in a police state. The vast majority of us put out hands on the wheel and stay motionless as possible because we understand fascist grifters train law enforcement to be paranoid freaks that are trained to unload an entire magazine center of mass the moment ant sense of uncomfortableness comes up.




    Tyreke Hill is an exception to that fear that Americans have in general. Usually the more wealth and influence you accumulate in the US, the more likely that fear of cops disappear because subconsciously everyone understands law enforcement exists to protect business owners, wealthy people, etc.
     
  10. B-Bob

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    Well, I guess, for myriad reasons, like supporting a felon and all-around bad guy narcissist, or for supporting an unwise, speeding mouthy football player. Lots of criticism for peoples' takes to go around.

    I'm not reading the thread carefully but haven't seen encourage or approve. I'll just speak for myself and would never encourage anyone to mouth off to pretty much anyone but especially not a police officer and definitely not an elder or military veteran. I wish our politicians could behave that well, never mind NFL football players.

    I mostly agree but I do think there's a different statistical spread based on your perceived group/class/race. A white guy in a business suit will be fine 99.9999% of the time if they are respectful.

    Maybe if you're wearing a dirty T-shirt and baggy pants, 98% of the time.

    Maybe if you have dark skin, dreads, and baggy pants, 96% of the time.

    The actual #s are not important, but the difference is real, IMHO. I once wore fake dreads in a very small, white town on a dare from a goofy friend. I was pulled over within like 8 minutes when i drove around (obeying all laws carefully). The officer was so shocked when he came to the window, LOL, and he admitted there was no problem. "You just admire my dreads?"
     
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    I just had an epiphany.

    The more wealthy you become the more your distrust in authority transfers from distrust in street level level law enforcement like local PD to distrust of federal government agencies and tax collections.

    And the more wealthier you become the more your trust of local street level law enforcement increases and the more you perceive them as allies or tools.
     
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  12. Xopher

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    HPD officers with no degree, 1 year on the job, no extra responsibilities, make 67.5K a year with no OT.
     
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    That's really high for Texas cost of living. My first job out of college as an entity level mechE from a four year engineering program in Massachusetts was at 60 grand.

    Being a cop especially with their excessive union protection that protects them from legal liability often is an easy street job in terms of job security, pay relative to qualifications etc.
     
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    Roll down your window when instructed like 5 times to do so, and nothing happens.
     
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    Good, needs to be more. We need our boys in blue

    No matter what you do make sure to support the blue.

    Seems like people that had issues with the law are against 'em, I've never been arrested, never been in handcuffs, nothing besides 3-5 tickets in my lifetime, n every interaction was very cordial, but I've never had an attitude n was never disrespectful so there was no reason for anything else but to be cordial. Therefore (based on my personal experience) I have no reason not to fully support our boys and girls in blue, putting their life on the line for us.
     
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    That doesn't even count shift differential or if they work 1 or 2 weekend days. Check out time off...

    • 20 Days - PTO (Paid Time Off increases up to 40 days based on years of service)
    • 15 Days - Personal Days
    • 11 Days - Paid Holidays (includes floating holiday
    • 15 Days - Paid Military Leave
    • 5 Days - PAT (Physical Agility days may be taken for $1,000 pay instead of paid time off)
     
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  17. Nook

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    Tyreek Hill is a scumbag - Tyreek Hill was a dick to the officer ---- the officer should be fired for escalating the situation because his pride was hurt, and for pulling him out of the car and onto the ground. That isn't how police officers are supposed to interact with the public.
     
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    I don't understand how people can't understand this basic concept.

    Tyreke Hill being an ******* is irrelevant to the fact that a cop made decisions based on ego rather than resolving a problem.

    Our taxes aren't being paid to train Tyreke Hill to deseseclate situations. At the end of the day the goal of that pull over was to issue a citation for speeding and that could have easily been done without the officer escalating to the level he did.
     
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    Yea it is, he had to learn that day. Probably won't be a dick anymore
     
  20. HTM

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    I disagree. I think its a massive problem in todays society we coddle people like Hill and tell him he's the victim in situations like this.

    He should face consequences for treating a public servant like ****. Everyone should.

    DMV employee, LEO, Teacher, Judge etc etc etc. - We see massive shortages in some of these areas and an oft cited reason is peoples conduct, conduct like Hills. Supporting Hill here enables that conduct. I'm out on that.

    We have standards and expectations in society and those should be maintained.

    What Hill got for breaking those standards and expectations was an appropriate rebuke/reprimand.
     
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