@Salvy @ROXRAN @CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul It's also dangerous to drive that fast on a public road. I know WOKE PEOPLE FORGET WHY THERE IS A SPEED LIMIT.
Call it what you want, I see it as being normal n kind, I don't think you're rude to random people like that but you choose to be rude to him because you're frustrated that you got cought. Never had an issue with 'em by just acting normal, keeping my hands where they can see 'em at all times n asking if I could reach for something if I needed to. If anything they let me off with a warning more times then they gave me a ticket. Try it bro
I also try to make interactions with cops as quick and efficient as possible by doing the things you said you do like being still, putting both hands on the wheel, speaking politely etc. But I do it because I know law enforcement attracts narcissistic egomaniacs that have qualified immunity and I don't want to be at the brunt end of an ego trip form a cop. That can be hazardous to one's life expectancy.
Some people here need to try acting like this in a foreign country and see how their police respond Like
Just because other countries have it worse doesn’t mean the police can do whatever they like here. That is one of the dumbest fallacies I heard from you and that’s saying a lot,
Thats it, you dictate how that encounter goes (for the most part), if you let it escalate, its not gonna be good. I highly doubt that a cop wakes up in the morning n says "today would be a good day to shoot somebody".
Buddy, you don't know cop culture. I know very well the pipeline from of Marine infantry to cop as many of my former peers went down that pipeline. They are the same dudes who joined Marine infantry "to get some" and before our first deployment, were praying that they were going to be deployed in a manner where they'd get their combat action ribbon. People who join professions that involve carrying firearms often do day dream about unloading rounds to save some hot blonde big tittie southern belle That mindset carries over when they join law enforcement. The desire to have war stories to tell others about the evils they had to face in the line of duty is strong. Cops get a ego tripping high when they get to go put on their tactical gear when a no knock raid is approved by a judge. They get boners over this ****. Their priority is to feel like a bad ass and way down their list it's "serve the local community ". When you learn the motivations of most cops and people who served in infantry/special forces it's hard to get back to A position of having respect for these type of professions because you know what type of people they attract.
If you are asking why give a reason for a cop to physically assault or shoot someone because you are being "uppity" or not respectful, then we have to rethink the basics of law enforcement because it lost the plot. I thought only in fascist or communist countries a citizen would be shot dead or physically abused because they didn't give the proper amount of respect to government officials.
I haven’t seen the whole video so don’t have a firm view on this. From what the snippets I’ve seen I think both Hill and the LEO share blame. Hill shouldve been more cooperative and less confrontational regarding rolling down his windows. The LEO should’ve kept his cool more.
They're not there to teach you manners, your parents should of done that. If they gotta beat some manners into you, oh well. Most of the videos that I saw could of been a normal traffic stop but ends up being a shitshow because a citizen decided to be a dic.khead.
Perhaps, but the police are supposed to have training to deal with difficult situations. Citizens have not been professionally trained and at that moment are dealing with something very stressful and unusual. The police need to enter every encounter with the mindset of how can I "de-escalate" this situation. Instead, police too often are the ones that do the escalation. Apparently Hill, who is a celebrity, wanted to keep the window rolled up so he wouldn't create a scene. The police made no attempt to de-escalate what was otherwise and peaceful situation. At every move, the police took the opportunity to turn up the volume. Not once, did the police take a deep breath and ask themselves how can I dial it down? Again, the police are the trained professionals here and are being paid to be there.
Yes police should be trained and should use escalation. The LEO in this situation didnt. LEO can and do issue lawful orders and telling someone during a traffic stop to roll down their windows or step out of their cars are lawful orders that need to be complied. Yes LEO frequently do abuse their power but that still doesn’t mean that a lawful order shouldn’t be complied with. LEO are legally allowed to use force to compel a lawful order and an order to roll down your windows is considered reasonable. Not complying automatically raises suspicion and puts the driver legally in the wrong.
Seems like Hill was rightly stopped for speeding and then was noncompliant with officers trying to do what they normally do on a traffic stop I imagine it can be a tense situation for police when someone is noncompliant during a traffic stop. They didn't even arrest him.
From what I have seen, Hill was 100% in the wrong. Just do what the officers tell you to do. Police officers have a very difficult and dangerous job to do. They NEED cooperation from citizens for everyone’s safety. If a person won’t follow instructions from an officer, then I have no problems with the officer pulling the person out of their car and putting them in handcuffs. When a person rolls up his tinted window and the officer has a hard time seeing what the person Is doing, then the officer has every reason to be concerned for his safety. The citizen has turned a simple traffic stop into something potentially very dangerous. From what I have seen, I hope the officers don’t get in any trouble for this.
I'm sure most of us have been stopped for traffic violations, common sense and common respect and decency compel us to act appropriately. We comply with commands and respectfully answer questions. We don't say, "don't tell me what to do bruh" and "don't touch my window" multiple times if the cop [of course] knocks on it because he needs to talk to you. Try bringing this energy and responsiveness to a Judge. It's the same concept. "Don't tell me what to do bruh" - lmao, good ****ing luck with that. You will be brought down. We live in a society. There are expectations for conduct when dealing with LEO/members of the judiciary/persons in authority and if you break those expectations you get what Tyreek got.
What a moronic take. Try this exact same act in a court of law with a Judge, "Don't tell me what to do bruh" and see how far that gets you. Most of us don't have a problem being respectful and compliant with persons like cops or judges and we don't have problems because we are respectful people and not egomaniacal assholes. That type of behavior undermines the role and authority of law enforcement and the judiciary and is insupportable in a society. If we had it your way everyone could just go around talking back to/not complying with instructions from cops and judges. I'm sure that would be great for society.
At first I thought the cops were too aggressive but after watching the video again Hill had an attitude from the start. He told the cop "not to knock on his window like that" a couple of times and then either him (or the passenger in the car with him) were telling the cop (if you listen closely) "what are you going to do"? Basically challenging the cop. How much of a dumb@$$ do you have to be to cop an attitude with a cop who just pulled you over and then challenge his authority? You want to know "what he's going to do"? EXACTLY what they did. Pull your ass out of the car. NONE of this would've happened if Hill would've been cooperative.
