He said it in the last sentence, Israel won't do that. Mexico had slaves too, they've abolished it 20 years before the USA did, so I guess you're right in a way for that time period. But as for today, shoot its way better to be a US citizen than a Mexican citizen @tinman agreed
I just saw that Netanyahu did apologize to the country even as he said he was continuing to press the war. It doesn’t seem to mollify those protesting against Netanyahu.
It's truly a crazy situation. Never should anyone negotiate with those holding hostages. Especially in a time of war. But there is so much pressure from Israelis as well as all of those here in the United States, to do what may not be in the best interest of your country in the future. I believe Netanyahu is trying to get a surrender and not a cease fire. I believe for optics Israel will have to go the cease fire route to reverse the sentiment that they are a naturally genocidal country. But that will do no good. We will be replaying this record in 5 years all over again. My one thing that I would have like to have seen from the get-go was no monetary support for Israel from the US. They can handle themselves. The other thing I would have liked to have seen would be no pressure from the US either way. Israel is not our country, and for us to impose our will one way or the other only further separates the United States. If you were running for president and the one group, be it pro Palestine, or pro-Israel would get you over the top to being president with the votes. what side you going to support. It has more to do with votes than the correct stance. If there is such a thing. The one big positive for the Harris campaign is I can see the situation over before we head to the ballot box. So those currently angry with the current administration will fall back in line. Both Jewish folk and Palestinian folk I suspect generally vote dem. The states with the highest Muslim population in the US are12: New York (724,475 or 768,787) California (504,056) Illinois (350,000 or 473,792) New Jersey (321,000 or 321,652) Texas (313,209 or 420,000) Florida (700,000) Michigan (270,000)
Bibi's actions have nothing to do with the security of Israelis. When you kill 40+ thousand people that you keep enclosed right next to your population of people, you don't care about security or your people. Because all you are doing is creating more life long vengeful humans that want to kill your people from there action. His goal along with lukid has always been the suppression of Palestinian statehood to create a one state solution where all the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank leave or are dead. That has always been his goal since his brother died as a IDF soldier many many decades ago. His hate for Palestinians is as personal as Hitler's hate for Jews.
That doesn't sound at all like keeping a population of vengeful humans enclosed right next to your people. In fact, it seems the opposite.
that is why I said he wants a surrender not a cease fire, but he will have to take the cease because of pressure. His personal thoughts on the matter will get him ousted if that is the will of the Israeli people. He is not Putin and can be removed by the people. My big throw out on my statement was how much this conflict has divided the USA. and can potentially be a chip in this election if you appease the side with more potential voters. May not be in our country's best interest, but candidates are going after the biggest voting pool. Can't seem to make both sides happy. BTW what I wrote is not political, but more of an observation of the crappy situation for all.
Lol do you know how ethnic cleansings work? When a conventional war machine is trying to move out a stateless population of humans, the goal is to make the area the stateless population lives in as inhospitable to life and a build up of a society as possible to where the hope is the stateless people give up hope of seeing that place as a future home and end up voluntarily becoming refugees or in this case bwg the Egyptian government to allow them to ressettle in the Sinai peninsula. Usually this ends up being a genocide. Almost apl genocides are ethnic cleansings that "accidently" end up being genocides.
I'm curious. would there be Genocide or Ethnic Cleansing as you say, going on in Gaza right now if the Palestinians did not decide to kill 1400 Israelis on October 7th.? Simple yes or no will suffice. Simple yes or no. don't want a back story from the Ottomans, Muslims, Israelis or Turks. Yes or No.
The current genocide? No. The ethnic cleansing has been an active campaign for decades. The goal is to make sure all basic infrastructure is never built back up after every round of ordinance drops followed by blockades. The IDF has already had a long history of blowing up schools, medical facilities, food banks etc well before Oct 7th. The goal has always been to reduce the quality of life in Gaza until it's unbearable. And the Israeli government then will use any transgression by Palestinian actors to accelerate the ethnic cleansing and make it far more efficient and dwindle down the timeline of Gazans giving up the land.
Well that is an open question I suppose. If you push out or kill all the Palestinians - then you don't have to worry about them demanding rights or fighting back. Probably - unless you kill them all. Duh - he will do anything to get rid of the Palestinians and give ALL the land to Jews. He wants the largest possible Israel - and for it to be for Jews. Killing or oppressing other groups of people don't matter. He also knows that all he has to do it "mix things up" and he will have sufficient justification for some, to take a bulldozer to Gaza and the rest of the occupied territory. When you feel 100% justified culturally and religiously to be on one spot on the globe - other issues like stealing homes, land - apartheid and oppression really fall to the wayside.
Longest running English podcast in Israel. I wonder if Israelis are just born to hate or if it is part of their upbringing. I bet @AroundTheWorld is a paid subscriber.
I have a pretty good idea, yeah. Seems like the stateless population would be a lot better off moving to another place than being the victims of a genocide. I don't think the onus should be put on Egypt though. There are hundreds of countries in the world. The global population is roughly 8 billion people. If you spread 2 million around, that means each country increases by 0.025 percent. That is negligible. There isn't a country on earth that couldn't absorb 0.025% increase in population. No one has to let another Gazan die, just distribute them per capita around Earth. No more Israel/Palestine war and no more "open air prison".
That would be called a successful ethnic cleansing. You can defend ethnic cleansings if you want. I'm sure you don't value my opinion of you as a human so do you.
I don't value a communist's opinion of anything. Anyone that would subscribe to such a morally and intellectually bankrupt ideology is beyond contempt.
