So you are suggesting that everything started on October 7, and Israel has absolutely done nothing wrong in Gaza and the West Bank, and Israeli settlers totally didn't steal anyone's lands and homes before October 7. Is that correct?
There have been dicks on both sides, to be sure... Which is true of pretty much every conflict and country. Holding Israel to a different standard than every one else is thinly veiled racism. Britain - and the Ottomans before them, and the Jews way way before them and others - controlled the land of Israel. They gave it to Jews, many of whom had already bought back land from the wealthy living there. ETA: there are currently some of said dicks in high levels of the Israeli government, who most Jews don't like because they don't accurately represent our values as a people and reflect poorly on us as a whole. But you wouldn't know anything about that... Would you?
This photo might make people's head hurt because there's several in here who think Israel/Zionist do no wrong. That's not exactly how it went down... you are playing it as nice as you can from the israel side. people living in their homes for decades were literally kicked out with all their belongings for not being zionist jews. carving out israel and trying to make it a country started off the modern conflict in the region we're still seeing
Do you think the Earth was created with countries already carved out? Also, I'm the only one of us that has acknowledged there have been dicks on both sides, yet you are accusing me of playing it nice for one side? That would be you, sir. There are records of tons of conflicts back and forth. I do also know that there's a giant ****ing wall from the Temple in an ancient city that we built THOUSANDS of years ago proving that we used to live there, too. I know because I've kissed it.
Neither Britain nor the Ottomans stole homes of people. They ruled the land; they got their taxes, but they didn't steal anyone's lands or homes. So I ask you once again. Do Israeli settlers steal lands and homes of people, or not? And no I wouldn't know. But I do know that an Israeli rapist who sodomized and tortured a Palestinian prisoner is a national hero, and the biggest celebritiy in Israel right about now.
Most people that are objective know it, because there were protests in Israel for months prior to the war breaking out. Where ya get it twisted is when people are criticizing Israel under the current government n its doing, most of y'all take an offense to that.
Ya did live there but fled or were expelled for centuries. Just because you've lived there thousands of years ago, doesn't mean you get to take it back. We can go around the world n start doing that but thats not how it works. Lets just give the USA back to the Natives then, Europeans n Africans should gtfo
I literally just said there are currently dicks in the Israeli government in the post you quoted, and have been criticizing Netenyahu on this board and with my mouth words for years.
I don't really get the "NAZI grandfather" bit. The NAZI party at it's peak only had like 30%-33% support in Germany. The vast majority of Germans were not NAZI supporters. Indeed, there were more Communists in Germany than NAZI supporters. It is like blaming all of the Russians for what the Soviet's did or Iranians for the **** show in Iran.
You really want to talk about countries getting carved out and the USA? Perhaps today is the day the class is finally ready to learn the definition of the word "genocide"? Why does everyone else "get to", but not us? Why is it cool with you that we got expelled but not others? Also, we didn't even take it back! It was GIVEN to us by a carving country who TOOK it from another carving country, and backwards down down the number line until it was taken from a carving country who took it from us. Do you see?
This is a socalled anti-Netanyahu j*w who lives in America. Now imagine how disturbed and troubled an average j*w who lives in Israel is.
Yea in 1933, but I think by 1938 he had the full support. Because he did a lotta good things for 'em, people forget or don't know that Germans were ****ed by the reparations that they had to pay to the French, n most of 'em were poor because of it. He stopped paying it, restored their economy, made BMW start making cars, Mercedes went bankrupt he restored it, Volkswagen was his doing. I mean one doesn't become an ultimate leader just because he says so.
You said right here I get it twisted, but you didn't mean it? I'm confused. Cut me some slack, being a sub-human and all ;}
Generalizing that most Jews feel offended by the critics of Israeli government. But I'm not saying you do. Never called you a sub-human, don't be childish like that now.
Hmm what’s your take on Zionists and @AroundTheWorld blaming the entire population of Gaza for Hamas?
It is apartheid. Israel is FAR from the first country to do it - but as time has gone on, the tolerance for it has gone down. While now no one will profess support for the old South Africa, not that long ago the same excuses were used by the Apartheid government as are being used by Israel. Public pressure ultimate forced the collapse of the government, and the invaders (with money) largely moved out. You did take it back - a government cannot morally give you a country that already has people living on it. What happened 1,000 years ago has little bearing on now. Israel has existed for less than 100 years - the Arabs were expelled like 75 years ago. It is a very delicate situation - there is bigotry on both sides. Make no mistakes, there are Arabs that would like nothing better than to slaughter every Jew in Israel. Likewise, there are some Jews, like Netanyahu that want the Arabs out of the West Bank and the rest of the area so that they can increase the size of the nation, live surrounded by other Jews and without as much conflict. A big part of the problem is entitlement - the idea that a group of people believe that they are the chosen people is dangerous.... just as it is dangerous for a group of people to justify all violence through their religion. I suspect that ultimately the extremists in Israel will get what they want - they will find someone to take the Palestinians and Israel will have more peace within it's borders.
Also also, Netenyahu's approval rating is 38% unfavorable to 29% favorable in the USA, which is home to half the Jews in the world - all three dozen of us. So no, "most of us" don't take offense to that. I don't think I really know any Jews who like Netenyahu, actually. Do you know many Jews?
The people of Gaza did not cause Hamas - and Hamas does not speak for all or even most Palestinians. Hamas never would have survived without some degree of tacit support from people like Netanyahu that want a full blown conflict with Palestinians.
