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Microplastics

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by AroundTheWorld, Aug 26, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    This x thread kind of freaked me out a bit.



    Our family has always been drinking sparkling water. In Germany, you basically have a reusable water bottle system, where you buy the water in glass bottles in a crate, then return the empty crate and get a full one again. There are some companies which deliver the crates and pick them up again, if you pay a bit extra, to make it easier.

    When we moved to Florida, I realized that no such system exists here. So we have been drinking out of 16.9 fl oz San Pellegrino plastic bottles and always put them into the recycling bin.

    But there was a recent news article about microplastics being stored in testicles...I didn't care that much, I am already old and stuff, and obviously my balls are made of steel and not vulnerable. But this thread made me think that if there is even a bit of truth to all this stuff, it's not good to expose our kids to it all the time.

    So I switched to a subscription where we get glass bottles delivered to our house, and we just put those into the recycling bin.

    Too paranoid?
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    For your kids? No. For yourself? Yes.

    I despise bottled water.

    I wonder how various home filtration systems (reverse osmosis, etc) handle microplastics. I just use a fancy pitcher filter that lives in the fridge.
     
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  3. AroundTheWorld

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    Yeah, as I said, for myself, I don't really care anymore, just thinking about the kids.

    I agree with you that it seems wasteful. We actually bought a couple of these soda stream like machines and have some filtration systems, but I'll be honest, it's a little less convenient, and I personally feel like it doesn't taste the same.
     
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  4. Xerobull

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    100% with Buck. I drink 1+gallon a day filtered tap water. How crazy is it to lug dozens of pounds of small plastic bottles of water a week around, and still be dehydrated?

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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Coming back to this, sorry I didn't read as closely as I should have the first time:

    Plastic is worthless to recycle (do it anyway, let them deal with it). Glass and aluminum are incredibly useful. Paper less so but still useful.

    I loved the beer recycling system in Argentina:
    • it's all sold in liter (glass) bottles (think a ~40oz, Americans)
    • you pay a ~$1(US) deposit on every *new* bottle you buy, so that's real money down there
    • there are recycling stations at every grocery store, so you bring your empties back
    • and the recycling machine gives you credit for that deposit for when you buy more beer
    • lather, rinse, repeat
    There was some sort of credit for wine bottles, but it wasn't a 1-for-1 deal, but everybody did it anyway.
    I know this is completely unworkable in the US, but it was pretty cool
     
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  6. RedRedemption

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    The world seems kind of ****ed microplastics-wise. All we can do is pray that the long term effects aren't devastating to human beings.
     
  7. Surfguy

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    That reminds me...I've had the same plastic bottle of water in my car middle console in case of emergency. It's baked in there for years. I guess I shouldn't drink that if I end up at the bottom of a ravine wrecked and dehydrated. lol
     
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    I was going to say in the unpopular opinions thread that people that drink one or two sips from a bottled water and then abandon it deserve the chair. Now I realize they're just being cautious.

    As far as plastic goes, I bet a lot of city water supply lines these days are made from it, and I bet about 95% of most homes built in the last twenty years use it primarily.

    And guess what, I just googled and plastic pipes are an issue (at least according to the copper industry). But copper has issues too, so they say...
     
  9. Buck Turgidson

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    You may or may not want to do that.

    If you leave them in the right place, in the right Texas sun, a bottle of water can set your car on fire. Just sayin', right?

    eta:

    FRESNO, Calif. (KSEE/KGPE) – Those half-empty or full clear water bottles piling up in your car could actually be a fire hazard as warmer weather moves in.

    Fire officials say drinking water to stay hydrated is crucial as the heat rolls in and while it might seem tempting, your car is one of the worst places to keep bottled water – as officials say it could start a fire.

    According to a demonstration conducted by firefighters in Midwest City, OK, a full clear water bottle was able to burn a hole through a piece of paper. The test shows a full bottle with clear liquid inside used to make the smoke appear and burn through the sheet of paper.
     
  10. Invisible Fan

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    In theory, you piss most of it out, but what you don't, mostly ends up in your fat tissue or elsewhere. That's part of the reason people feel like **** when they initially lose a lot of weight, but dropping pounds is better than letting the plastic decay further inside of you because in theory (the reason why some plastics are Food Grade by the FDA), you'll piss it out of your bloodstream..

    You can't escape plastics. It's pretty much cursed knowledge to dig deep into the subject.

    I used to make my own fizz with a simple plastic bottle, but with that paranoia I bought a small keg and device to pipe tap water and carbonate in the keg. I considered using glass bottles, but there's a slight risk of the glass exploding under pressure, so I spent a little more effort in doing it right.

    More importantly if you eat any processed food/takeout/frozen, transfer it to plates/cookware asap then reheat or serve.

    Fast food has a lot of plastics, whether it's the wrapper sprayed with plastic like material to reduce grease leaching through it, the prep before (frozen plastic bags thrown into boiling water or nuked), or practices designed for one-off hygeine.

    Ironically, those paper straws are sprayed with the same **** as wrappers, so while you "save the oceans" with dissolvable paper, most of the plastics that would've went into the ocean go through your body first until you piss most of it out. Yay.

    As for longevity of plastic bottles and cans, a rule of thumb when it comes to dissolved plastics is one year with two pushing it. The plastic liner in cans doesn't completely dissolve, which might be great for people who are starving in a zombie apocalypse and don't want to eat rust.

    Plastic in bottles is just there and you could probably drink a 5 yr old bottle without a hitch. I mean if you're dying of thirst, a month or year's worth of chlorinated tablets is worth the upped cancer chances over several bouts of malaria or parasites in that same timeframe.

    I saw a hack on shorts where some dude boiled a can of condensed milk to make dulce de leche. Clever but not smart.
     
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    It’s not exposed to the sunlight. It’s shut inside the middle console. I’m going to remove it today. No way I’m drinking that.
     
  13. Buck Turgidson

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    You may need to drink it someday, might be stuck on I-10 fleeing a hurricane? May need to pour it in your radiator. Better than trying to piss in it.

    You should always have some water stashed somewhere in the vehicle. Best to keep it out of the sun.
     
  14. Xerobull

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    It's unfortunately unavoidable. Plastics are used in all parts of the food chain, for example. You can't get water that has never touched plastics either.

    Joe Rogan did a pod with Dr. Shanna Swan about 3 years ago on the issue of microplastics/pthalates. She wrote a book on the topic called Count Down: How Our Modern World Is Threatening Sperm Counts, Altering Male and Female Reproductive Development, and Imperiling the Future of the Human Race.

    Worth listening to Rogan's pod, but the takeaway is basically that we're ****ed and there's nothing to do other than lessen your exposure where you can. But even then.... you're ****ed.
     
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  16. Xerobull

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    Not even well water? I guess the pump could have some plastics...but it could also be old-school or industrial and all metal.
     
  17. Surfguy

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    Do inline refrigerator water filters filter out micro plastics? I’m guessing no.

    Edit: Apparently, some do but...check the label!
     
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    I don’t think it is overblown.
     
  19. Xerobull

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    @Buck Turgidson coincidentally, this was just posted and references Red Dawn:

     
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