that and also having a mix raced child is what ultimately cooked her, but she did manage to keep up the grift for a few weeks
Being a traditional wife isn't necessarily not progressive or feminist. Feminism is about women having the opportunity to do what they want and makes them happy. Some women really love being a stay at home mother and homemaker. The problem is when men assume all, or even most women find it rewarding.
It has always existed - it also has never been all that uncommon. There are some women that find it important and rewarding to be a full time mother and homemaker. I don't get why this is puzzling or odd to you.
Being a trad wife is not necessarily a rejection of feminism at all. There are obviously some very religious and conservative trad wives - but there are quite a few that are strong feminists and progressive.
A bad faith argument in right wing propaganda is beating up a strawman that "leftists hate women who chose to be stay at home mothers". But as you say the actual feminist claim is agency and no judgement for women choosing a career heavy path vs a housewife path. And as feminists, they believe there shouldn't be shame towards men for choosing to be stay at home fathers over career driven also. At the end of the day it's all about agency and not being a judgemental prick. And if one decides to be a mother or father, they best bet to make their children the center of their life now. But that doesn't apply to women who were forced into labor against their will. A rapist doesn't get to decide the future of a woman's life path.
Honestly - most men over 40 demand this anyway. A lot of men have unrealistic expectations of women - and that includes secular and progressive men. As for whether that mindset appeals to domineering men? The answer is that it really depends on the relationship and the couple. A lot of domineering men would not be happy with many modern trad wives. Why? Because trad wives actually have a lot of power and control in healthy relationships with that dynamic. My wife is a trad wife. She did not become a practicing doctor - and she has a very hard job, she runs the household and takes care of our son, and as a consequence she has a lot of power in our household and relationship.
It depends - there are some women and self-styled feminists that are very harsh and look down upon women that are homemakers. Likewise, there are some homemakers that look down upon women that work outside the home. Still - most of the feminists in the actual feminist's movement that have clout believe that feminism is about women having the same opportunities and choices that men have or could have. There is no Pope or Queen that rules or controls all feminists or feminist movements - the right wing like to point to the absolute extremes of the movement and paint that as the wider feminist movement - which is not factual. A majority of women self-label themselves as feminists.... some males have a complete lack of understanding of women or how they view the world in many cases. We actually are seeing this in the posturing concerning the 2024 election - and the language used.
The difference between the two in your first paragraph is one is regulated to blogs and the other is backed by some of the most powerful men on the planet. That's why I don't care about the former as any type of actual harm to society. The former is just used for social media algorithms for conservatives to be outraged about. There is no push in a legislative sense to force women to not be stay at home mothers outside basic capitalism forces stretching families thin where both parents have no choice but to work. There is is a push to regulate woman away from career paths. This is why I don't like "both sidesism"
I'm trying to find an example of a Democrat politician making fun of women having children. That would be a political career suicide. Apparently it isn't political career suicide to make fun of women that don't have children. Please don't bother sides this. You don't have to both sides everything
The Republicans are far worse in 2024 when it comes to misogyny. The Republicans current Presidential candidate and VP candidate are both terrible when it comes to misogyny.
Don't want to make this personal, but does your wife use the term "trad wife" without irony? Because I'm not thinking about stay-at-home moms, of which I know many and they are diverse, I'm thinking about women who would self-identity out loud with the name "trad wife." Maybe it'll be a case of wires crossed, but a woman using that term is telling me about her politics, not her life.
Does she use the term "trad wife"? I am sure she has, but no she uses a lot of different terms for it. Some that identify as trad wives are very conservative and religious - but there are also a lot of them that are the opposite. My wife is typically very socially liberal and progressive and will talk sometimes to some other trad wives - but my wife is not really tolerant of having a religious person tell her how to live or raise her son, so the ones she talks to are just women that want to stay home and raise their children and run the household affairs. Some of them homeschool - but a lot of them don't homeschool. My son isn't homeschooled. I think the term "trad wife" is used differently by different people, including women that call themselves trad wife. I only know that point because my wife has some association with the term and there are others I know as well. We vaccinate - my son isn't homeschooled, my wife graduated from medical school, my wife is a feminist and cannot stand Donald Trump as a person, she is an atheist and if I told her she needed to bow to her husband she would hit me with a brick.
I believe that "trad wives" get a bad rap. Women have (and should have) all the freedoms of men and can do anything a man can do (except pee on a campfire). Society shouldn't expect a woman to be a trad wife. ... but as Nook said... that doesn't mean being a trad wife is a bad thing. Having a stay-home parent who gets the work done around the house and is there for the kids is a very valuable thing. This doesn't mean it has to come from the woman, either. A man can do that, too. And, in my 28 years of marriage, there have been times where I've been unemployed while my wife worked, so I was the stay-home parent. (Currently, we both work and share household and family duties) We should shake that historic negative stigma of it being a "woman's role", not hate people (women or men) who are stay-home parents, and appreciate the value that they bring to their family. Some people feel more fulfilled by building their career. Others feel more fulfilled by dedicating themselves to their family. Is one better than the other?
Maybe she made lemonade with lemons by glamposting on social media. Translation: I blocked out an hour with the neighbors at the *** crack of dawn because I can't tie down the little **** for the ENTIRE day while pretending in person that it's for the "mother****in culture!"
I told my wife she could be a trad wife if she wanted, but she hit me and told me to make her a sandwich.
If I could hangout with one poster, it would be him. Lots of good members on the board, but he's smart, reasoned, and of course Astros connection.
