1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. wompwomp

    wompwomp Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    263
    But market Cap is not net worth of a company. Net worth is book value, the difference between net tangible assets minus liabilities.
     
  2. Salvy

    Salvy Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2009
    Messages:
    24,635
    Likes Received:
    36,143
    Why not now? You are the current vice PRESIDENT..

     
  3. gifford1967

    gifford1967 Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    8,302
    Likes Received:
    4,646
  4. wompwomp

    wompwomp Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    263
    Consumer price growth in July slowed to its lowest post-pandemic level, a sign that the surging inflation that has gripped the U.S. economy is finally ebbing. On a 12-month basis, the Consumer Price Index (CPI) cooled to 2.9%, down from 3% in June — the first time the index dipped beneath 3% since March 2021.7
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  5. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    So you are saying the founder in this case would not be deemed to have any unrealized capital gains?

    How would you describe the net worth of a founder who has 20 % in a company that got valued at 1 billion, but has no real estate or other meaningful tangible assets and has never turned a profit? Zero?
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,777
    Likes Received:
    20,431
    I asked you once and I'll ask again. Do you want a lesson? I have decided to be generous. I'll give you a discount. Just let me know.
     
  7. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    A lesson in what?
     
  8. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,777
    Likes Received:
    20,431
    Investment strategy, how to navigate the market, and all of that good stuff.
     
  9. adoo

    adoo Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2003
    Messages:
    11,785
    Likes Received:
    7,923
    ur using terms you non't understand

    net worth is the total equity of a company, total assets minus total liabilities.

    Total assets = total tangible asset + total intangible assets
     
  10. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
  11. wompwomp

    wompwomp Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    263
    I am by no means an expert on accounting on taxes and on this proposal, but it depends on how net worth is defined. In your scenario, market capitalization is not the same. Also, a system where someone like a Peter Thiel was able to accumulate 5BILLION dollar in a Roth account tax free is pretty insane and skewed.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,777
    Likes Received:
    20,431
  13. wompwomp

    wompwomp Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    263
    I was referring to the difference between market capitalization of a company and the net worth of a company which is not the same but if I am wrong, I am wrong.
     
  14. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    A private market company valuation is the equivalent of a public company's market cap.

    If you own a certain percentage of whatever the market sees as the value of the company and that is your only asset, then that's your net worth (ON PAPER). And if the market sets a higher valuation and you have not sold any shares, then you have an unrealized gain. There are many people who - on paper - would have crossed the 100m wealth threshold ON PAPER, but have no or almost no liquidity (unless an exit occurs - that's where the tax has to be paid in the current (and any respectable) system).

    It would be crazy to try and tax someone with no liquidity on a paper gain. Many of these companies still go bankrupt or their valuation goes down massively. Is the idea to punish and bankrupt entrepreneurs for trying to build companies? That's textbook communism, and about as anti traditional American dream as it gets.
     
    #4734 AroundTheWorld, Aug 20, 2024
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2024
  15. CCorn

    CCorn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    22,264
    Likes Received:
    23,038
    Michelle has nothing on Hulk Hogan
     
    ROCKSS, FranchiseBlade and Ubiquitin like this.
  16. Ubiquitin

    Ubiquitin Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2001
    Messages:
    19,191
    Likes Received:
    14,202
    She should've ripped off her shirt and starting playing guitar.
     
  17. AroundTheWorld

    Joined:
    Feb 3, 2000
    Messages:
    83,288
    Likes Received:
    62,280
    I just want to know what you - genuinely - think about taxing unrealized gains.
     
  18. CCorn

    CCorn Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2010
    Messages:
    22,264
    Likes Received:
    23,038
    But is Barack balack?
     
    FranchiseBlade likes this.
  19. wompwomp

    wompwomp Member

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2013
    Messages:
    233
    Likes Received:
    263
    I would like to debate this further but I do not have enough about the nuts and bolts of the proposal and the mechanism to determine wealth for it to be productive so I will bow out. You could be right tho.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2002
    Messages:
    51,777
    Likes Received:
    20,431
    I'll address that as part of the class curriculum.
     

Share This Page