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The GOP is the grievance party with no agenda beyond power

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Aug 20, 2024.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They have no platform other than to destroy the gov't, support Russia, Israel, and Saudi Arabia, and serve mega-billionaire interests. There entire campaign strategy is meant to villainize the other side because they have no real policy platform outside of gimmicks like cutting taxes on tips.

    Look at their strategy which is entirely fear mongering and hate:

    1. Biden is senile.
    2. Call them communists
    3. Call them communists
    4. Say Kamala has a drinking problem
    5. Say Kamala has bad laugh
    6. Say Kamala is ugly
    7. Say Kamala's name wrong
    8. Say Kamala is foreign
    9. Say Kamala isn't black
    10. Say Kamala isn't smart
    11. Say Kamala is really mean
    12. Say Kamala is a slut
    13. Say Kamala is a communist
    14. Say Kamala will destroy America even though Biden apparently already did
    15. Say Kamala isn't brave cause she won't debate on fox
    16. Say Kamala doesn't have big crowd sizes and uses AI
    17 Democrats cheat
    18. Democrats hate Israel
    19. Kamala is an anti-semite
    20. Say Democrats are corrupt
    21. Say Democrats are liars
    22. Say democrats only know how to attack him and treat him unfairly
    23. Say they are the worst ever every time


    I am sure there are tons I have missed and tons more that will come forward as they see what sticks. But outside of Project 2025, what is Trump going to do? Build the wall again? Tax the middle class with tariffs? Kick out all the brown people? Let the Saudis, Russians, and anyone else willing to give Trump money, dictate US policy?

    Do they stand for anything other than culture war nonsense and helping the uber rich get uber richer?
     
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    "liberal"
    "leftist"
    "woke"
    lather, rinse, repeat

    I really do miss principled conservatives with actual policy positions.
     
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  3. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    You are wrong, sir. Trump doesn't think Kamala is ugly. He think's she is very good looking. Only that he is better looking than her. Did you see the Time Magazine cover of her? He wants to hire that sketch artist. He's infatuated with her.
     
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    We all have that same face when we think about Trump.

    In a concert, the last act to go on is called The Headliner. In Trumplandia, ya'll call it a grievance. lol. Weak sauce.

    Did GWB speak at the RNC? Did Mitt Romney, like Hilary, Obama, Bill, etc. spoke at DNC? Nope, cause the only people that wish to speak on behalf of Trump are the ones with freshly browned noses. The respectable Republicans that don't still need/want a job wouldn't be caught dead at the RNC. Very telling.
     
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    Time for all of us to step up and vote this year. The Trump toxic mindset needs to be beat out again, whether you are Democrat or not.

    The doom and gloom, hate, lies, bullying, vulgarity, and inciting of violence needs to go. The Republican party has become useless, toxic, time wasting, do nothings with the infestation of the MAGA Trump puppets. We all need Trump and his types out of positions of leadership in our country to be better, stronger, and happier.
     
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  8. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    When your morals align with a lying, convicted felon, narcissist, pedophile all rolled into one you have no agenda to stand on except bigoted identity politics, grievance and oppression of others.
     
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    What needs to be beat out is the liberal fascism thats in place
     
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    I love this. It's so true.

    "Donald Trump calls America a failing nation. He says we're losing," Biden said. "He's the loser. He's dead wrong."

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    I don't disagree with you about the pettiness and narcissism of the Donald, on a personal level.

    I think it comes down to what people think is the lesser of two evils, and how real the potential dangers of either side coming into power are for what you believe in.

    Some leftists think Trump is "literally Hitler", and would vote for anything and anyone over him, because of that. Some would even like to see him murdered because of that.

    Some conservatives (including me) think a Kamala/Walz admin would be way more socialist/authoritarian and identity politics - driven and pandering to Islamists and allowing more illegal immigration than they can stomach. Even if they personally dislike Trump, they will vote for the Republican side because they think one unhinged orange tweeter who didn't make the USA a fascist country during his first term will do less harm than the policies of the other side.

    There is obviously a lot of hyperbole on both sides. Most people aren't evil, on either side. And as much as I like to troll the leftists, overall, it would be better for political discourse in the country and the world if both sides could tone it down.
     
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    Thats how it should be, you should look at both of the candidates and see who do you think is better, not just vote red or blue blindly. I might vote blue in '28 if I like their candidate, rn I like Trump
     
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    I'm just some dude online, who cares. I was talking about the vitriol from the leaders of both parties.
     
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    Well, they do have the 'push hate vs minority and minority groups to secure votes and power' agenda, so there is something there.



    But yes, they talk about all of these things because there are no other real policies and most of their politicians get votes with the message of how bad government is so that when they do get voted in in red states they don't have to do jack **** except more culture war.

    wash, rinse, repeat
     
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    This is a ****ing hilarious exchange.
     
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    JD vance is a "leftist"?

    and some people like yourself and trump make fun of people who are violently attacked in their own home and almost murdered.

    this is why nobody should take anything you say seriously. you are a self-admitted troll.

    you should try taking your own advice!
     
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    Very nice post. I appreciate the tone, as opposed to most of your posts.

    So since you are in an agreeable mood, let's dive in, shall we?

    I agree that both sides view the other as evil and that's not healthy. As the cliche goes, every villain believes they are the hero in their own story. But as the other cliche goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. The unsaid part of that cliche is that some roads lead to heaven, while others lead to hell. Those that choose the road to hell, often do so with good intention, albeit misdirected.

    Okay, let's step back from the cliches and look at reality.

    Trump has "literally" used language that Hillter used and rarely distanced himself from those comparisons. For example, when folks carrying Nazi flags in public that resulted in a white person murdering a black person, Trump literally said "good people on both sides". Trump told the Proud Boys to "stand by". [b[Trump has fueled the Hitler comparisons.[/b] You cannot point to a single example where Biden or Harris have enabled, aligned themselves, or otherwise demonstrated any sympathetic position towards Fascism (or Communism for that matter). (Socialism is not Communism)

    But let's be clear, it's not only the leftists that have said Trump is bad for America. Many Republicans have also denounced Trump, some of which subsequently flip flopped after what was a clear quid pro quo endorsement. Reverse is not true.

    You are entitled to your opinion that Trump is the lessor of two evils. But let's be clear, Biden voluntarily stepped aside from his role because he feels enabling Harris to run her campaign is in the best interest. Conversely, Trump is exactly opposite. Not only is he not stepping aside, he's made wide scale, systematic efforts to retain power.

    Biden: Willing to step aside for what he believes is the greater good.
    Trump: Willing to cease power, by any means, to retain power.

    If that is what you call the "lessor of two evils", sir, I couldn't disagree with you more. But to each their own. Let's see what the voters have to say (and I pray that the voters' wishes are not overruled by technicalities.)
     
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    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Shocking to no one. And there’s a long long history of this happening with the GOP going back to this:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668.amp

    Richard Nixon… Trumps apprentice in many ways .
     
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