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Biden is the weakest president in history

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  1. Nook

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    Joe Biden isn't any weaker than any other President.

    Short of breaking the law - they all are weak, they all are governed by the whims of congress and the senate and they all have to prioritize short term success over long term growth or they will lose a competitive election.

    There have been times where President's have expanded the power of the executive branch - Lincoln, Roosevelt, Bush Jr - but those were as a result of unforeseen special circumstances and all were villified for it.

    Hell - Lincoln was seen as a very weak man and President when he was alive. His own party claimed his wife pushed him around, that he was afraid of the Southerners, that he was afraid to speak up.

    I agree with David Bellavia - the USA doesn't have the stomach for what it would cost to change things. The USA public doesn't have the stomach for what it take to actually win a war, the public is not willing or able to suffer what it would take to fix the economic and structural problems in the USA.
     
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  2. Os Trigonum

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    link should work for everyone

    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/joe-bid...osloah73i9o&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

    Joe Biden’s Sad Presidential Legacy
    The President promised to be a unifier but has governed as a divisive progressive.
    By The Editorial Board
    Aug. 18, 2024 at 5:18 pm ET

    The hosannas will ring from the rafters for President Biden in Chicago on Monday, as Democratic convention-goers hail him as another FDR with a touch of George Washington for “voluntarily” giving up power. Then they will drop him like a passing fad.

    Such is the fate of a President most Americans regard as a failure, and who was headed for defeat in a rematch against Donald Trump. It’s a sad exit for a Presidency that could have been so much better had he honored his campaign promise to unite the country and be a “transition” from the Trump era.

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    Recall that Mr. Biden won the White House, on his third try, as the last, best alternative to defeat Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and his party’s left. He campaigned against Mr. Trump as a national unifier who would shun the extremes and govern from the center.

    In office he has done the opposite. After winning control of a 50-50 Senate in Georgia’s 2021 runoffs, Democrats saw a historic opportunity to pass, well, everything. To keep progressives on side, Mr. Biden struck a Faustian bargain to pursue much of Mr. Sanders’s agenda. To Ms. Warren he gave veto power over his financial regulators. Above all, he sublet his Presidency to Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and Democrats in Congress, who sought the greatest expansion of government since LBJ’s Great Society.

    This began with a $1.9 trillion spending bill in March 2021 in the name of Covid relief, though the pandemic was all but over and the economy was recovering fast. This planted the seeds of the worst inflation in 40 years that hit 9.1% in June 2022 and has reduced the real incomes of Americans.

    This was the Biden pattern across his half-century political career. Show him where the party was going and he’d follow. Ron Klain, his first White House chief of staff, advised Mr. Biden to unite his party on Capitol Hill rather than seek compromise with Republicans. His approval rating suffered for it.

    Most of his Build Back Better plan died in a narrowly divided Congress. And the giant bills that did pass on party-line votes—the Covid relief extravaganza and the Inflation Reduction Act—have produced record peacetime debt and deficits.

    The results of the IRA will play out over many years, but its drug price controls will limit medical cures, and $1 trillion in green subsidies are leading to a vast misallocation of capital. The bipartisan Chips Act and infrastructure bills will yield some new plants and bridges, but at enormous cost.

    Mr. Biden followed the left on border security, and the main result has been poisoning the chance for any immigration compromise. His failure to adapt on the border may be the mystery of his term.

    His foreign policy legacy won’t be complete until we see how the wars play out in Ukraine and the Middle East. But we know his ignominious withdrawal from Afghanistan was a sign of national weakness that encouraged adversaries around the world. He wasn’t able to deter Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine, nor Iran and its proxies from threatening the very existence of Israel.

    Mr. Biden did better in the Pacific, notably in building an architecture of allies willing to resist Chinese domination. The Aukus pact, expanded military ties with Japan, and closer ties with the Philippines are examples.

    But history’s harshest verdict may be that, with adversaries on the march, Mr. Biden proposed cuts in U.S. defense spending after inflation every year of his Presidency. This will haunt the next President, whoever it is, if the new axis of adversaries in China, Russia, Iran and elsewhere seek to exploit a U.S. military without the means to meet its global commitments.

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    Far from transitioning from Donald Trump, Mr. Biden sought to keep the former President in the political spotlight. He defined all Republicans as MAGA, and he declared that even modest voting-integrity bills in Georgia and elsewhere were the racist equivalent of “Jim Crow 2.0.” He said voters had to choose between “the side of Abraham Lincoln {Democrats} or Jefferson Davis {Republicans}.”

    Perhaps most damaging as a norm-breaking precedent, Mr. Biden made clear he wanted Mr. Trump to be prosecuted as a criminal. His Justice Department obliged. This made Mr. Trump a martyr to Republican primary voters and helped him win the GOP nomination. Mr. Biden didn’t want Mr. Trump to fade away; he wanted to sustain his career long enough to run against him as the Republican easiest to defeat.

    Mr. Biden’s selfish plan to run for a second term was undone by a growing senescence he was unwilling to admit. Had he announced early in 2023 that he wouldn’t run again, both parties might have reset their primaries with younger nominees better able to address America’s growing challenges at home and abroad.

    In the end Mr. Biden was forced out of his re-election ambitions by Mrs. Pelosi and his fellow Democrats lest he take down the entire party this year. His last-minute departure has left America with a choice between an untested Vice President who never had to seek a single primary vote and a former President who is disliked by more than half the public.

    Democrats will call this a triumph if Ms. Harris manages to win, but she or Mr. Trump will inherit a country more divided and dispirited than when Joe Biden was elected. That is the unfortunate legacy of the Biden Presidency.

    Appeared in the August 19, 2024, print edition as 'Joe Biden’s Sad Presidential Legacy'.

     
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    WSJ is fun for everyone!
     
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    apparently still dominating the Democratic Party platform :D

     
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    apparently a true story

    Why the Democrats' platform refers to Biden 'second term' several times

    https://okcfox.com/news/nation-worl...al-convention-dnc-biden-kamala-harris-chicago

    excerpt:

    WASHINGTON (TND) — TheDemocratic National Committee is taking heat after releasing its latest party platform, which misidentifies the Democratic presidential nominee over a dozen times.

    It is customary for political parties to vote on official party platforms at their conventions. The 2024 Republican Party Platform, which calls former President Donald Trump "an unapologetic champion of the American people," was finalized at the Republican National Convention in July.

    The 2024 Democratic Party Platform was released Sunday ahead of the Democratic National Convention. The platform refers to President Joe Biden's "second term" at least 18 times, according to an analysis by The National Desk. President Biden dropped out of the presidential election in July, passing the torch to Vice President Kamala Harris as the party's nominee.

    The platform also references an election between former President Trump and President Biden, touting the latter as the ideal choice for the next four years.
    you had one job

    more at the link
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    correction. 19 times.

     
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    An opinion piece from WSJ? No Turley opinions?
     
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    Repeat the line. End of quote
     
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    81 million votes lol! Old yeller got taken behind the shed by Nancy.

     
  13. B-Bob

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    But seriously, does Biden even lift, bros?

    He's a long way from the Diamond Joe days of waxing his trans am shirtless.
     
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    I think Biden tarnished his legacy with running for re-election and getting exposed as old as hell but I think objectively he had a decent presidency.
     
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    This is Joe's legacy. She didnt care about the President. Just his campaign.

     
  16. Xerobull

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    I’m pretty sure he could do a push-up.
     
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    But with his new woke agenda, he now waxes the hair off folks in the trans population, shirtless. Also communism, Hamas, Marxism, and DEI.

    Don't try and keep people from clutching at their unrighteous, unjustified, and misguided anger.
     
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    Wow how hard is it to "ctrl + F" and search biden. Lazy AF
     
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  20. B-Bob

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    Yeah, I don't always like Nancy, but good for her. This is actually what a political movement looks like when it isn't an f*ed-up cult of personality.
    "You are going to hurt what you've already achieved and in that way, we believe, hurt the country, if you don't stand down."

    I wish more people had tried to talk such sense into RBG and that the GOP had possessed the nerve to talk that way to flailing Trump.

    But here we are.
     

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