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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    "It's mean to call Kamala drunk" - JD Vance, apparently
     
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  4. Nook

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    I have zero interest in going to the DNC.

    I have zero interest in joining Palestinian protestors in Chicago at the DNC.

    I am in my office right now - sitting at my desk deciding if I am going to take my wife and son out to dinner in Lincoln Park and then ice cream, or if I am going to go home and spend time with my wife and son in the pool before the season changes.

    I am not involved in any protests concerning Israel or Palestine or have any interest in being around anti semites or those are arabophobes.

    I tend to not like people that are only motivated by one single interest.
     
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  5. Buck Turgidson

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    Lol.
     
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    You forgot Poland.
     
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    When you cannot articulate facts in a debate then do like trump and act like a 3rd grader :rolleyes: I know the facts don't line up with your narrative, but this response and several others are childish
     
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    Did you see the part right above it where it says, "diplomatic relations"
     
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    A lot of people need to learn that the vice presidency is almost a completely ceremonial office whose only official duty is to break ties in the Senate.

    There's an entire HBO comedy whose early seasons explore this exact pitfall for ambitious politicians.
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    You guys can try to minimize what she was responsible for - clearly, she wasn't going to oversee building fences with a hard hat on, and she wasn't going to be at the border in uniform, directing border patrol agents.

    But the fact that you guys try to pretend she wasn't tasked with fixing the border shows how much of a failure this administration has been when it comes to securing the border.

    You officially made it past the "it's not happening" and "it's happening, but it's not that bad" stage to the "it's the other guys' fault, Comrade Kamala had nothing to do with it" stage.

    And we all know you are lying.

    P.S.: Mexico was included in her task. As posted above, direct quote from POTUS. @Nook

    Here is the direct link (was on my phone earlier):

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...president-harris-in-a-meeting-on-immigration/

    (...)

    In addition to that, there’s about five other major things she’s handling, but I’ve asked her, the VP, today — because she’s the most qualified person to do it — to lead our efforts with Mexico and the Northern Triangle and the countries that help — are going to need help in stemming the movement of so many folks, stemming the migration to our southern border.

    (...)

    And so, this increase has been consequential, but the Vice President has agreed — among the multiple other things that I have her leading — and I appreciate it — agreed to lead our diplomatic effort and work with those nations to accept re- — the returnees, and enhance migration enforcement at their borders — at their borders.

    We’re already talking with Mexico about that; she’s already done that. We’re going to be dealing with a full team now that we have to be able to deal with the problem here at home, but also to deal with it now in terms of in country.

    And I can think of nobody who — who is better qualified to do this than a former — this is a woman who ran the second-largest attorney general’s office in America — after the U.S. — after the United States Attorney General — in the state of California, and has done a great deal upholding human rights, but also fighting organized crime in the process.

    So it’s not her full responsibility and job, but she’s leading the effort because I think the best thing to do is to put someone who, when he or she speaks, they don’t have to wonder about is that where the President is. When she speaks, she speaks for me. Doesn’t have to check with me. She knows what she’s doing, and I hope we can move this along.

    THE VICE PRESIDENT:
    Well, thank you, Mr. President and for having the confidence in me. And there’s no question that this is a challenging situation. As the President has said, there are many factors that lead precedent to leave these countries. And while we are clear that people should not come to the border now, we also understand that we will enforce the law and that we also — because we can chew gum and walk at the same time — must address the root causes that — that cause people to make the trek, as the President has described, to come here.

    And I look forward to engaging in diplomacy with government, with private sector, with civil society, and — and the leaders of each in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras to strengthen democracy and the rule of law, and ensure shared prosperity in the region.

    We will collaborate with Mexico and other countries throughout the Western hemisphere. And as part of this effort, we expect that we will have collaborative relationships to accomplish the goals the President has and that we share.
     
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    Damn spellcheck changed antifa to "anita" but yeah they were IMO the biggest rioters too. Chicago was one of the more tame major cities during the riots from what I remember though. sure some looting but could have been way worse. Locals really protected their neighborhoods so most of the crap happened in the tourist areas. Houston was another city that was pretty tame compared to most places, unlike say Dallas which was top 10 the worst. If I had to rank the worst cities during the riots:

    1. Twin Cities (ground zero)
    2. NYC (burroughs went crazy except for Staten Island)
    3. DC (capital city burning; anarchist paying people to set fires)
    4. Portland (nonstop degenerate behavior and crazy riot police)
    5. Seattle (CHAZ)
    6. SF (Market Street area shakedown...all stores looted)
    7. Oakland (Mercedes dealership raided and cars raced down the street...small businesses were protected though)
    8. LA (widespread chaos; the children of 1992 rioters trying to outdo their parents)
    9. Dallas (DTD went crazy)
    10. ATL (the CNN HQ getting tagged up was nice to see though)/Chicago (the insane amount of people in the streets was a sight to see)
     
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  13. AroundTheWorld

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    @Nook - show the integrity to admit you were wrong.
     
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    Lol, you don't know **** about the border.
     
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    Yes. That quote is in reference to her efforts being in charge of the diplomatic efforts which can help reduce the stem of migrants. It isn't putting her in charge of securing the border and all aspects. Biden presumed people would reference what he'd already said.

    Instead a few people more interested in smearing rather than an earnest assessment chose not to use the appropriate information and are dishonestly trying to mislead.
     
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    Yeah, the last thing we need is democrats passing a torch around. Biden should just give Kam some keys or something tonight. No more big city fires!
     
  17. Nook

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    I wasn't wrong - Kamala Harris was not in charge of the US/Mexico border.

    I gave you multiple quotes directly from her mouth from years ago where she said that she was not in charge of the border.

    She was not in charge of the policy

    She was not in charge of the enforcement of policy

    She was not in charge of the law enforcement at the border. -

    The person in charge of all of that was in charge of the Homeland Security.

    Hell - Harris in 2021 even went further and said in a direct quote that she was responsible for looking into the causes of the border issues - and that any results would take a long time to germinate.

    I don't know what else needs to be proven to debunk the idea that Harris is responsible for the border issues - she isn't. She had very little to do with illegal immigration in the USA, and nothing to do with Venezuela and the majority of illegals entering the USA.

    It is a dishonest exercise to claim otherwise.
     
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    Mislead by posting the whitehouse.gov document with the verbatim quotes by President Biden and Vice President Harris, stating that working with Mexico to secure the border is part of her job? And President Biden specifically citing her experience in law enforcement as part of what qualifies her for the role, saying she is meant to "fight organized crime in the process".

    He literally put her in charge - said she doesn't have to check with him, she is fully responsible.

    And she responded that she will ensure enforcement of the law and that she will collaborate with Mexico.

    All of this was disputed above, where someone tried to minimize her role by saying she was only tasked with talking to three other countries.
     
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    You were 100 % wrong. You specifically claimed that she was not tasked with dealing with Mexico to secure the border.

    Your lying is disappointing. I expected better of you.

    Biden explicitly and specifically put her in charge of this issue, stressing she doesn't even need to check with him.

    Biden's and her own words state that part of her task was dealing with Mexico to secure the border.

    Biden: "We’re already talking with Mexico about that; she’s already done that. We’re going to be dealing with a full team now that we have to be able to deal with the problem here at home, but also to deal with it now in terms of in country."

    Harris: "We will collaborate with Mexico and other countries throughout the Western hemisphere. And as part of this effort, we expect that we will have collaborative relationships to accomplish the goals the President has and that we share."

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...president-harris-in-a-meeting-on-immigration/

    See above - his and her direct quotes disprove what you said.

    It's incredible that the transcript on the ****ing White House website is right there with their literal quotes and that you are still lying about it.

    It's one thing to make an error and be wrong - it's another thing to stubbornly double down on a lie.

    Be better.

    P.S.: Here is the video if you somehow think the White House website was hacked or something.



    He also explicitly said that she will "have a full team to deal with the problem here at home".
     
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    There was an attempt to make Chicago a huge location for riots, there were a lot of anarchists and others that came to Chicago with the specific purpose of causing chaos. The Chicago PD has a lot of problems, but they are very effective at handling riots and arresting people. They were sending mobs down streets that exited out of the downtown area or onto the beach.
     

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